Tell me about it. I've been running my community for just over a year now and have had to deal with these issues a many times where a client thinks that because they own the game that they somehow own the server they're playing on. They're the most fun to ban, because they always make a ruckus and usually end up making a fool of themselves. :D
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Timothy L Havener < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You have to see it from the point of view from those of us who host > servers. We bust our asses trying to build a community and fun > environment for people to play your games. Some little kid with mommy > issues complains about being kicked and kicks up a fuss and his opinion > is considered valid enough to warrant restrictions being placed on us. > Its a bit frustrating... > > You let them vent and you hear their voices...hear ours...please. > > > Erik Johnson wrote: > > This is in the realm of a non constructive thread. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy L Havener > > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:37 PM > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > Subject: Re: [hlds] L4d vote kicking > > > > It really frightens me that kids are growing up with this unrealistic > > belief that everything is supposed to be fair to the point they cannot > > take the rejection of being kicked from a game server. Life isn't > > fair. Pick yourself up and dust yourself off and just find another > server > > > > > > Cc2iscooL wrote: > > > >> Even though I consider voogru generally annoying... ;) > >> > >> He does have a point. You own the server, you own the rights to do > whatever > >> you want and enforce whatever rules you want. Period. If you don't like > the > >> way admins run their servers, start up a listen server and bitch to the > >> people that join and then complain that the game is laggy. :) > >> > >> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald < > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> Mob ftw. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leonard L. > >>> Church > >>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:44 PM > >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] L4d vote kicking > >>> > >>> I seriously don't want to argue the point more then I already did. It > >>> appears other server operators feel differently and the mob will rule > on > >>> this one. > >>> > >>> Comparing a rented server to your house or nightclub is silly. Also, > >>> comparing kicking someone equaling murder is also silly. > >>> > >>> Decide what you want. I'm out of the L4D game. > >>> > >>> Timothy L Havener wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> So Valve is going to go down that road and blacklist the IP of anyone > >>>> who kicks someone unfairly? Besides that is also only for ranked > >>>> servers. There are unranked servers that do not have those rules and > >>>> you can do as you please. > >>>> > >>>> J T wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Battlefiedl 2 ROE was a means of allowing "10 year olds" play the > game > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> and > >>> > >>> > >>>>> not get his feelings hurt. In essence, you couldn't do what you liked > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> with > >>> > >>> > >>>>> your server if it conflicted with the ROE. Like pistol only servers. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Timothy L Havener < > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Why not argue the point? If you are going to make such a ludicrous > >>>>>> statement please back it up with logic. So I pay for a server for > my > >>>>>> friends and I to play on or just for the heck of it and I should > have > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> no > >>> > >>> > >>>>>> say as to what goes on? Who in their right mind would waste the > time? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> If > >>> > >>> > >>>>>> Valve wants to control the gaming experience so some ten year old > >>>>>> doesn't get his feelings hurt then let them pay for their own > servers. > >>>>>> I am not going to pay for them to have a place for other people to > play > >>>>>> where I have no say. Everyone is afraid of the big bad admin. Do > this > >>>>>> and see how quickly you have no community and no where to play. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Leonard L. Church wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> I am serious Spencer. I know we don't agree on allot of things and > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> this > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>> appears to be another one, so let's kindly not argue the point. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> You can't be serious. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leonard > L. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Church > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:40 AM > >>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] L4d vote kicking > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Personally, I think that if you open up your server to the public > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>> (and > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> you are by listing on the lobby server), then your rights go out > the > >>>>>>>> window as far as you never being kicked or choosing what things > get > >>>>>>>> voted on. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I think this would be a step backwards as abusive admins can just > sit > >>>>>>>> and wait for people to join up, grief them until they leave, then > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>> wait > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>> for them to rejoin. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Valve, please don't do this. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>> archives, > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>> archives, > >>> > >>> > >>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>> > >>>> > >>> please visit: > >>> > >>> > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
