It isn't my job to start a wiki page or write valve's documentation. It's THEIR job. Not ours. To defend their lack of documentation is simply absurd.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike O'Laughlen Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 1:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [hlds] Lame Bitching (a.k.a. Re: How about some server instructions and server.cfg) Yeah this thread has become unhelpful to anyone but yourself. I don't even see what your problem is except complaining that the Internets aren't structured enough for you. Furthermore, some of these new cvars such as sv_steamgroup and sv_steamgroup_exclusive were added to the product just before release, so any documentation would have be kept up to date. Admins are typically technically savvy and able to google for this information. And the attitude that you need to be compensated to create the appropriate documentation is bollocks. Here's a document on all the cvars (sans sv_steamgroup) http://www.left4dead411.com/l4d_cvar_list.pdf If that doesn't help, start a wiki page for l4d cvars/guide. You can even add a link from the Valve developer wiki (not sure if it's the appropriate wiki since its geared towards the SDK devs... but whatever): http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Left_4_dead > > I'm *not* supporting L4D until Valve gets their act together. I made the > > decision a day or two after release and numerous frustrating attempts to > get > > it behaving the way I wanted. > > > > To say "If you can't figure it out, then you shouldn't be a server > > operator" doesn't carry *ANY* weight with me. That's simply a childish > jab > > at best and an excuse for valve at worst. > > > > There is no substitute for proper documentation. <---Read that. Now read > it > > again. Keep reading it until you understand what it means. > > > > Everyone on this list should be *EXPECTING* proper documentation for this > > product. Not begging for it or relying on the few people who managed to > > kinda-sorta figure it out. It's half-assed, and I expect better from > Valve. > > I blindly believed that Valve would do right by server ops. I won't > blindly > > believe that anymore. > > > > Call me a whiner. Call me an attention-craver. I don't care. I *will* > voice > > my opinion if I feel strongly enough about it. _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
