"Not having the time" isn't a justifiable reason to cheat. Sorry.


On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 16:22 -0500, Aj Collins wrote:
> If Valve wanted to stop achievement farming servers, they would have set up
> a server blacklist a long, long time ago. Besides, there are people who just
> don't have the time (some people actually have a life and work!) to spend
> killing millions of people to unlock an achievement. By the time that they
> do, the game will most likely be replaced with the next installment. Also,
> unlocks are a crock of crap to new players as they will get pissed off and
> leave by older, younger players having more powerful guns while they have
> shit guns. If achievement farming on farming servers keeps them playing back
> in my or someone else's server, I'm all for it.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 4:11 PM, msleeper <mslee...@cyberwurx.com> wrote:
> 
> > I have a really strong feeling that Valve has found a way to catch
> > people who use that too, now that everything is using the Steam Cloud.
> > The fact that they caught people who used the weapon glitch, and that
> > they are "awaiting the ways we will disappoint them" give me hope that
> > they finally have.
> >
> > http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2262
> >
> > Maybe honest players will finally prevail.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 13:04 -0800, Blood Letter wrote:
> > > Why farm when you can just use the unlocker?
> > >
> > > > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:01:52 +0100
> > > > From: bengt.rosenber...@gmx.de
> > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Achievement Farmer Honeypot
> > > >
> > > > Great, I gonna install that on my 24/7 achievement farming server... Or
> > > > wait... No, I won't.
> > > > Have fun with an empty server.
> > > >
> > > > Stuff like this encourages me to open up another farming server...
> > > >
> > > > msleeper schrieb:
> > > > > I have written a honeypot plugin for SourceMod that will autoban
> > anyone
> > > > > who earns an achievement in the server. If there is any other admins
> > out
> > > > > there who think that complacency towards farming needs to end, this
> > is
> > > > > step one.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been running this since the moment the Scout update came out
> > last
> > > > > night and, at time of writing this, 1890 farmers have been caught and
> > > > > stopped.
> > > > >
> > > > > The plugin is here:
> > http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=86402
> > > > > My publicly available list of farmers is here:
> > > > > http://www.msleeper.com/tf2-achievement-farmers.html
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm really not interested in mucking up the list with personal
> > opinions
> > > > > about whether or not farming is right, or honeypotting farmers is
> > wrong,
> > > > > but if you want to discuss you can always join IRC.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from my honeypot
> > > > >
> > > > >
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