The "sent from my honeypot" is him trying to make fun of people that interact with the list via iPhone.
What a crazy idea... To get email on an iPhone I think it just sounds stupid myself KennyLoggins ClanAO.com On Feb 25, 2009, at 4:17 PM, "MeZelf" <[email protected]> wrote: > If it would be for some ban list that is authoritive for like 100+ > servers > than this might a nice thing to run... but still not against farming. > But I also fail to see the point in doing this if you keep the ban > list it > produces just to yourselves. > Because I don't recall reading you saying that you're going to put > your list > up for usage on other servers. > > I gave up on the 1.000.000 healing and 1.000.000 fire damage for > example. > Those are impossible to make in normal serverplay. > I 'farmed' a couple of achievements too.... took me about 3 days (8 > hours in > total during the weekend) and I still wasn't really getting closer > to the > 1.000.000 healing/fire. > Although I did get 15 achievements... big deal considering there are > about > 134 to earn. > > PS "Sent from my honeypot" > That only makes me want to lookup your server IP and avoid it like the > plague ~_^ > > MeZelf > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex > Sent: woensdag 25 februari 2009 22:55 > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds] Achievement Farmer Honeypot > > good job msleeper > > good idea. keep working on it > > 2009/2/25 Darren Gordon <[email protected]> > >> Ok good, that means I can say >> >> You're the worst server admin ever. >> >> >> And not have to follow up. >> >> >> On Feb 25, 2009, at 1:45 PM, msleeper wrote: >> >>> I'm doing this because somebody needs to take a stand. People are >>> numb to the cheating, and nothing will every change when everyone is >>> being complacent about it. >>> >>> Lastly, you are missing the point of a honeypot. Look up the >>> definition: >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypot_(computing)<http://en.wikipedi >>> a.org/wiki/Honeypot_%28computing%29> >>> >>> The entire purpose of this is to make it looks like any other >>> achievement server, to make farmers feel "safe" by joining it. >>> >>> I'm not going to respond to the personal attacks. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 13:35 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: >>>> If your server is full, and people are earning achievements then >>>> being banned from YOUR servers, you're being a hypocritical, >>>> selfish ass. >>>> >>>> You're running an achievement server that DOES let people farm >>>> achievements - they get one (maybe 2 or 3 depending on delay / >>>> simultaneous achievements) achievement (and probably progress >>>> towards others) before being banned. >>>> >>>> You claim your server is full, so it's turning out just as many >>>> achievements as other full achievement farming servers (maybe a >>>> little less due to overhead - since they have to go find another >>>> server afterward, etc.). >>>> >>>> You're banning these people from YOUR servers. You do provide a >>>> public list, but your list is NOT authoritative and I (and many >>>> other admins) would be hesitant to just import a list of 2000 bans. >>>> The vast majority of servers will NOT benefit from this list >>>> because most will never be aware of the list, let alone be able to >>>> import it easily (most servers are NOT running sourcebans/sourcemod >>>> with sql/etc.). >>>> >>>> You're playing vigilante because you think the game should be a >>>> certain way. That's fine, but you won't get much support for your >>>> "cause", especially with the way you are doing things. Simply >>>> setting up another server (instead of the honeypot) would be a far >>>> more beneficial to the TF2 community as a whole. >>>> >>>> The fact is there are a LOT of player who prefer to farm or unlock >>>> than to grind for achievements. >>>> I for one absolutely hate achievements, gamer cards, trophies, and >>>> whatever other crap is added to games to make them longer, force >>>> grinding, or promote social/web 2.0/e-peen crap. The mere fact >>>> that a GAME is intentionally turned into a chore to keep players >>>> playing is a slap in the face. It works though, because people >>>> feel they need that epic mount, that extra costume for Chun-Li, and >>>> the Ubersaw. >>>> >>>> It's a difference in opinion. You hate farmers, I don't care how >>>> people enjoy their game. You imposing your view of the game on >>>> your servers is fine, but I hope you realize that you're providing >>>> an achievement server which has let thousands of achievements be >>>> farmed, and that those farmers (who you claim to despise, >>>> hypocrite) are then set loose on the rest of the TF2 community >>>> (ass), while you and your servers are walled off from them >>>> (selfish). >>>> >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:07:22 -0500 >>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Achievement Farmer Honeypot >>>>> >>>>> My server has been full since the moment I set it up. There is a >>>>> delay between achievement earned and banning, so the farmers don't >>>>> know what is going on. My server looks 100% like any other farming >>>>> server. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 22:01 +0100, Bengt Rosenberger wrote: >>>>>> Great, I gonna install that on my 24/7 achievement farming >>>>>> server... Or wait... No, I won't. >>>>>> Have fun with an empty server. >>>>>> >>>>>> Stuff like this encourages me to open up another farming >>>>>> server... >>>>>> >>>>>> msleeper schrieb: >>>>>>> I have written a honeypot plugin for SourceMod that will autoban >>>>>>> anyone who earns an achievement in the server. If there is any >>>>>>> other admins out there who think that complacency towards >>>>>>> farming needs to end, this is step one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have been running this since the moment the Scout update came >>>>>>> out last night and, at time of writing this, 1890 farmers have >>>>>>> been caught and stopped. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The plugin is here: >> http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=86402 >>>>>>> My publicly available list of farmers is here: >>>>>>> http://www.msleeper.com/tf2-achievement-farmers.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm really not interested in mucking up the list with personal >>>>>>> opinions about whether or not farming is right, or honeypotting >>>>>>> farmers is wrong, but if you want to discuss you can always join >>>>>>> IRC. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my honeypot > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
