No, I just don't want to spam the list when I feel I am doing good in the world, plus we are having fun attacking me in IRC and it's hard to keep up with emails.
On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 16:55 -0500, Chris Oryschak wrote: > "I'm not going to respond to the personal attacks." > > lol. In previous threads this is you. Tables turned and don't like it? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of msleeper > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:45 PM > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds] Achievement Farmer Honeypot > > I'm doing this because somebody needs to take a stand. People are numb > to the cheating, and nothing will every change when everyone is being > complacent about it. > > Lastly, you are missing the point of a honeypot. Look up the definition: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypot_(computing) > > The entire purpose of this is to make it looks like any other > achievement server, to make farmers feel "safe" by joining it. > > I'm not going to respond to the personal attacks. > > > > On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 13:35 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: > > If your server is full, and people are earning achievements then being > > banned from YOUR servers, you're being a hypocritical, selfish ass. > > > > You're running an achievement server that DOES let people farm achievements > > - they get one (maybe 2 or 3 depending on delay / simultaneous > > achievements) achievement (and probably progress towards others) before > > being banned. > > > > You claim your server is full, so it's turning out just as many > > achievements as other full achievement farming servers (maybe a little less > > due to overhead - since they have to go find another server afterward, > > etc.). > > > > You're banning these people from YOUR servers. You do provide a public > > list, but your list is NOT authoritative and I (and many other admins) > > would be hesitant to just import a list of 2000 bans. The vast majority of > > servers will NOT benefit from this list because most will never be aware of > > the list, let alone be able to import it easily (most servers are NOT > > running sourcebans/sourcemod with sql/etc.). > > > > You're playing vigilante because you think the game should be a certain > > way. That's fine, but you won't get much support for your "cause", > > especially with the way you are doing things. Simply setting up another > > server (instead of the honeypot) would be a far more beneficial to the TF2 > > community as a whole. > > > > The fact is there are a LOT of player who prefer to farm or unlock than to > > grind for achievements. > > I for one absolutely hate achievements, gamer cards, trophies, and whatever > > other crap is added to games to make them longer, force grinding, or > > promote social/web 2.0/e-peen crap. The mere fact that a GAME is > > intentionally turned into a chore to keep players playing is a slap in the > > face. It works though, because people feel they need that epic mount, that > > extra costume for Chun-Li, and the Ubersaw. > > > > It's a difference in opinion. You hate farmers, I don't care how people > > enjoy their game. You imposing your view of the game on your servers is > > fine, but I hope you realize that you're providing an achievement server > > which has let thousands of achievements be farmed, and that those farmers > > (who you claim to despise, hypocrite) are then set loose on the rest of the > > TF2 community (ass), while you and your servers are walled off from them > > (selfish). > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected] > > > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:07:22 -0500 > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Achievement Farmer Honeypot > > > > > > My server has been full since the moment I set it up. There is a delay > > > between achievement earned and banning, so the farmers don't know what > > > is going on. My server looks 100% like any other farming server. > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 22:01 +0100, Bengt Rosenberger wrote: > > > > Great, I gonna install that on my 24/7 achievement farming server... Or > > > > wait... No, I won't. > > > > Have fun with an empty server. > > > > > > > > Stuff like this encourages me to open up another farming server... > > > > > > > > msleeper schrieb: > > > > > I have written a honeypot plugin for SourceMod that will autoban > > > > > anyone > > > > > who earns an achievement in the server. If there is any other admins > > > > > out > > > > > there who think that complacency towards farming needs to end, this is > > > > > step one. > > > > > > > > > > I have been running this since the moment the Scout update came out > > > > > last > > > > > night and, at time of writing this, 1890 farmers have been caught and > > > > > stopped. > > > > > > > > > > The plugin is here: > > > > > http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=86402 > > > > > My publicly available list of farmers is here: > > > > > http://www.msleeper.com/tf2-achievement-farmers.html > > > > > > > > > > I'm really not interested in mucking up the list with personal > > > > > opinions > > > > > about whether or not farming is right, or honeypotting farmers is > > > > > wrong, > > > > > but if you want to discuss you can always join IRC. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my honeypot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > archives, please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. > > http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_022009 > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
