i love my iphone :D On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Mike Stiehm <[email protected]> wrote:
> The "sent from my honeypot" is him trying to make fun of people that > interact with the list via iPhone. > > What a crazy idea... To get email on an iPhone > > I think it just sounds stupid myself > > KennyLoggins > ClanAO.com > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 4:17 PM, "MeZelf" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > If it would be for some ban list that is authoritive for like 100+ > > servers > > than this might a nice thing to run... but still not against farming. > > But I also fail to see the point in doing this if you keep the ban > > list it > > produces just to yourselves. > > Because I don't recall reading you saying that you're going to put > > your list > > up for usage on other servers. > > > > I gave up on the 1.000.000 healing and 1.000.000 fire damage for > > example. > > Those are impossible to make in normal serverplay. > > I 'farmed' a couple of achievements too.... took me about 3 days (8 > > hours in > > total during the weekend) and I still wasn't really getting closer > > to the > > 1.000.000 healing/fire. > > Although I did get 15 achievements... big deal considering there are > > about > > 134 to earn. > > > > PS "Sent from my honeypot" > > That only makes me want to lookup your server IP and avoid it like the > > plague ~_^ > > > > MeZelf > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex > > Sent: woensdag 25 februari 2009 22:55 > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Achievement Farmer Honeypot > > > > good job msleeper > > > > good idea. keep working on it > > > > 2009/2/25 Darren Gordon <[email protected]> > > > >> Ok good, that means I can say > >> > >> You're the worst server admin ever. > >> > >> > >> And not have to follow up. > >> > >> > >> On Feb 25, 2009, at 1:45 PM, msleeper wrote: > >> > >>> I'm doing this because somebody needs to take a stand. People are > >>> numb to the cheating, and nothing will every change when everyone is > >>> being complacent about it. > >>> > >>> Lastly, you are missing the point of a honeypot. Look up the > >>> definition: > >>> > >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypot_(computing)<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypot_%28computing%29> > <http://en.wikipedi > >>> a.org/wiki/Honeypot_%28computing%29> > >>> > >>> The entire purpose of this is to make it looks like any other > >>> achievement server, to make farmers feel "safe" by joining it. > >>> > >>> I'm not going to respond to the personal attacks. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 13:35 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: > >>>> If your server is full, and people are earning achievements then > >>>> being banned from YOUR servers, you're being a hypocritical, > >>>> selfish ass. > >>>> > >>>> You're running an achievement server that DOES let people farm > >>>> achievements - they get one (maybe 2 or 3 depending on delay / > >>>> simultaneous achievements) achievement (and probably progress > >>>> towards others) before being banned. > >>>> > >>>> You claim your server is full, so it's turning out just as many > >>>> achievements as other full achievement farming servers (maybe a > >>>> little less due to overhead - since they have to go find another > >>>> server afterward, etc.). > >>>> > >>>> You're banning these people from YOUR servers. You do provide a > >>>> public list, but your list is NOT authoritative and I (and many > >>>> other admins) would be hesitant to just import a list of 2000 bans. > >>>> The vast majority of servers will NOT benefit from this list > >>>> because most will never be aware of the list, let alone be able to > >>>> import it easily (most servers are NOT running sourcebans/sourcemod > >>>> with sql/etc.). > >>>> > >>>> You're playing vigilante because you think the game should be a > >>>> certain way. That's fine, but you won't get much support for your > >>>> "cause", especially with the way you are doing things. Simply > >>>> setting up another server (instead of the honeypot) would be a far > >>>> more beneficial to the TF2 community as a whole. > >>>> > >>>> The fact is there are a LOT of player who prefer to farm or unlock > >>>> than to grind for achievements. > >>>> I for one absolutely hate achievements, gamer cards, trophies, and > >>>> whatever other crap is added to games to make them longer, force > >>>> grinding, or promote social/web 2.0/e-peen crap. The mere fact > >>>> that a GAME is intentionally turned into a chore to keep players > >>>> playing is a slap in the face. It works though, because people > >>>> feel they need that epic mount, that extra costume for Chun-Li, and > >>>> the Ubersaw. > >>>> > >>>> It's a difference in opinion. You hate farmers, I don't care how > >>>> people enjoy their game. You imposing your view of the game on > >>>> your servers is fine, but I hope you realize that you're providing > >>>> an achievement server which has let thousands of achievements be > >>>> farmed, and that those farmers (who you claim to despise, > >>>> hypocrite) are then set loose on the rest of the TF2 community > >>>> (ass), while you and your servers are walled off from them > >>>> (selfish). > >>>> > >>>>> From: [email protected] > >>>>> To: [email protected] > >>>>> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:07:22 -0500 > >>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Achievement Farmer Honeypot > >>>>> > >>>>> My server has been full since the moment I set it up. There is a > >>>>> delay between achievement earned and banning, so the farmers don't > >>>>> know what is going on. My server looks 100% like any other farming > >>>>> server. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 22:01 +0100, Bengt Rosenberger wrote: > >>>>>> Great, I gonna install that on my 24/7 achievement farming > >>>>>> server... Or wait... No, I won't. > >>>>>> Have fun with an empty server. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Stuff like this encourages me to open up another farming > >>>>>> server... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> msleeper schrieb: > >>>>>>> I have written a honeypot plugin for SourceMod that will autoban > >>>>>>> anyone who earns an achievement in the server. If there is any > >>>>>>> other admins out there who think that complacency towards > >>>>>>> farming needs to end, this is step one. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have been running this since the moment the Scout update came > >>>>>>> out last night and, at time of writing this, 1890 farmers have > >>>>>>> been caught and stopped. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The plugin is here: > >> http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=86402 > >>>>>>> My publicly available list of farmers is here: > >>>>>>> http://www.msleeper.com/tf2-achievement-farmers.html > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm really not interested in mucking up the list with personal > >>>>>>> opinions about whether or not farming is right, or honeypotting > >>>>>>> farmers is wrong, but if you want to discuss you can always join > >>>>>>> IRC. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sent from my honeypot > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- Neil Voutt http://www.neilvoutt.com _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
