Half of my regulars are in Europe or South America or Asia. Some of them 
come in with fairly ugly pings, but a ping of ~225 from Europe is not at all 
unusual. Not the best, but still perfectly playable (at least for those of 
us that remember what it was like to play with dial up modems LOL). Back in 
my day (when Men were Men and I had to walk barefoot in the snow to school - 
uphill - both ways...) I could, with my 250ms ping, whip the cable modem 
guys butts easily. If you are good, you are good even with mediocre ping, 
and if you suck, then you whine and cheat I guess.

No one - and I mean no one - whines about consistent lag because they are 
connecting from some other country. I'm watching some guy from Germany with 
a ping of 260 kicking butt. I have players in Seattle that connect to my 
server with a ping of about 35. And they really aren't any better then the 
260ms pinging Germans.

In all fairness, I don't remember ever seeing anyone connecting from 
Hawaii - how bad is their ping that they feel they have to cheat?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Clyde cide" <[email protected]>
To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Top Cheating Features Bypassing VAC? (was 
Voogrucheaterplugin)


>I get service guys from Korea that play on mine with no lag, Denmark,
> Portugal, Russia and a few others that play with out lag as well. My 
> server
> is in Chicago.
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 4:04 PM, matan nov <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I play from Israel on US servers with no lag, I'm literally on the other
>> side of the world.
>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Rick Payton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > A lot of the "kids" here in hawaii tend to go for the aimbot / wallhack
>> > combo. Their usual justification is to compensate for the inherent lag
>> > of playing from Hawaii on a US mainland server, but that's the cheat's
>> > they like.
>> >
>> > I run Kigens anti cheat, and that catches a small handfull of cheaters,
>> > but it seems to work ok.
>> >
>> > <offtopic>Holy shit, HoundDawg made a post - I haven't seen any 
>> > activity
>> > from you in years. Are you getting back into server duties?</offtopic>
>> >
>> > -mauirixxx
>> > -sent via my United Admins fanboyism - even if it's seemingly no longer
>> > relevant :/
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of HoundDawg
>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:55 AM
>> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> > Subject: [hlds] Top Cheating Features Bypassing VAC? (was Voogru
>> > cheaterplugin)
>> >
>> > Sorry, it's been a number of years since I've been an active server
>> > admin.  So, after all of these years, the VAC isn't sufficient enough
>> > still?  I'd think (or hoped) that if Valve was going to kill off
>> > projects like CDeath and HLGuard, they'd have a way better solution in
>> > place by now.
>> >
>> > What are the top cheating features that are getting past VAC today (I
>> > don't want cheat names, simply the styles... e.g. aimbot, wallhack,
>> > etc..)?
>> >
>> > HoundDawg
>> >
>> >
>> > MjrNuT wrote:
>> > > Voogru,
>> > >
>> > > That makes alot of sense.  If you do seriously consider a stripped
>> > > down version, I wouldn't mind contributing something for your time,
>> > > and maybe others wouldn't either.  Not saying I'm speaking for
>> > > them...but us laymen know that time is money, or its just fun.
>> > >
>> > > Feel free to contact me separately if you wish, like helping to prod
>> > > you more, laymen or not, I'd be glad to as it couldn't hurt, right?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for making this a _possibility_,
>> > >
>> > > [FLASH] MjrNuT
>> > > Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality
>> > >
>> > > www.flamesandash.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
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