heheh - I've got about a dozen players in right now - cpu is bouncing 
between 60 and 70%, fps on server is about 80. UPload is about 300kbps 
spiking at about 400, download is only 180 or so. cpu is my bottleneck right 
now, but it's pretty steady - I'm not spiking past 80%.

If you don't know the map, you would indeed not last long. A lot of the 
people on at any time know it fairly well, and they can be brutal. They even 
whip my butt when I try to play with them :(

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Payton" <[email protected]>
To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Top Cheating 
FeaturesBypassingVAC?(wasVoogrucheaterplugin)


> Well I don't have op4 installed, but ping averaged 132 from work.
> Apparently, you can start downloading op4 and play with only 16% of the
> content downloaded. Ping in game was pretty steady at around 120-130,
> with an ugly spike up to 200 for me. I'm playing from work, so the
> firewall here may have induced all the choke I was getting.
>
> Dying repeatedly was my own doing, I've never played Op4 :P
>
> -mauirixxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ook
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:47 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Top Cheating Features
> BypassingVAC?(wasVoogrucheaterplugin)
>
> Pop into my server and see how you ping:
>
> connect OoksServer.no-ip.info
>
> It's an 18 player OP4 server running on an AMD Sempron 2400+ (1.7GHz I
> think). When I start to push past 12-14 players, cpu usage climbs and
> fps drops, but seems to remain playable. One day I'll move it to a box
> with a little more cpu, but for now it does what I want it to :)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Payton" <[email protected]>
> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Top Cheating Features Bypassing
> VAC?(wasVoogrucheaterplugin)
>
>
>> The ping from here isn't that bad actually, at least not to me. I hit
>> california based (San Jose specifically) at around the 70-80 ping
>> mark, anywhere else in cali is right at 100. Playing on Texas based
>> BF2 servers, I would usually hit around 120, with spikes up to 150.
>>
>> TOTALLY playable in my opinion. But most of the hawaii gamers I've
>> played with over the past 6 years claim that those numbers suck, and
>> only play with that latency because there's no alternatives here in
>> hawaii (that part is true, NOBODY hosts game servers in hawaii - I
>> host mine off my work connection, which has a 2 megabit uplink, and
>> goes damn near unused at night).
>>
>> Like I said, it's the mindset. I used to live in cali (fresno) so I've
>
>> played on my fair share of low and "high" ping servers, and you're
>> right
>> - if you're good, you'll do fine with high ping, but if you suck...
>> Well you just suck, and low ping won't help you any.
>>
>> msleeper has been on the end of a few of my hawaii sucks for internet
>> rants in irc .... I should show you the colo quote I got here ...
>>
>> -mauirixxx
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ook
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:23 AM
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Top Cheating Features Bypassing VAC?
>> (wasVoogrucheaterplugin)
>>
>> Half of my regulars are in Europe or South America or Asia. Some of
>> them come in with fairly ugly pings, but a ping of ~225 from Europe is
>
>> not at all unusual. Not the best, but still perfectly playable (at
>> least for those of us that remember what it was like to play with dial
>
>> up modems LOL). Back in my day (when Men were Men and I had to walk
>> barefoot in the snow to school - uphill - both ways...) I could, with
>> my 250ms ping, whip the cable modem guys butts easily. If you are
>> good, you are good even with mediocre ping, and if you suck, then you
>> whine and cheat I guess.
>>
>> No one - and I mean no one - whines about consistent lag because they
>> are connecting from some other country. I'm watching some guy from
>> Germany with a ping of 260 kicking butt. I have players in Seattle
>> that connect to my server with a ping of about 35. And they really
>> aren't any better then the 260ms pinging Germans.
>>
>> In all fairness, I don't remember ever seeing anyone connecting from
>> Hawaii - how bad is their ping that they feel they have to cheat?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Clyde cide" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
>> <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 2:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Top Cheating Features Bypassing VAC? (was
>> Voogrucheaterplugin)
>>
>>
>>>I get service guys from Korea that play on mine with no lag, Denmark,
>>>Portugal, Russia and a few others that play with out lag as well. My
>>>server  is in Chicago.
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 4:04 PM, matan nov <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I play from Israel on US servers with no lag, I'm literally on the
>>>> other side of the world.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Rick Payton <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > A lot of the "kids" here in hawaii tend to go for the aimbot /
>>>> > wallhack combo. Their usual justification is to compensate for the
>
>>>> > inherent lag of playing from Hawaii on a US mainland server, but
>>>> > that's the cheat's they like.
>>>> >
>>>> > I run Kigens anti cheat, and that catches a small handfull of
>>>> > cheaters, but it seems to work ok.
>>>> >
>>>> > <offtopic>Holy shit, HoundDawg made a post - I haven't seen any
>>>> > activity from you in years. Are you getting back into server
>>>> > duties?</offtopic>
>>>> >
>>>> > -mauirixxx
>>>> > -sent via my United Admins fanboyism - even if it's seemingly no
>>>> > longer relevant :/
>>>> >
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: [email protected]
>>>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>>>> > HoundDawg
>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:55 AM
>>>> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>> > Subject: [hlds] Top Cheating Features Bypassing VAC? (was Voogru
>>>> > cheaterplugin)
>>>> >
>>>> > Sorry, it's been a number of years since I've been an active
>>>> > server
>>
>>>> > admin.  So, after all of these years, the VAC isn't sufficient
>>>> > enough still?  I'd think (or hoped) that if Valve was going to
>>>> > kill
>>
>>>> > off projects like CDeath and HLGuard, they'd have a way better
>>>> > solution in place by now.
>>>> >
>>>> > What are the top cheating features that are getting past VAC today
>
>>>> > (I don't want cheat names, simply the styles... e.g. aimbot,
>>>> > wallhack, etc..)?
>>>> >
>>>> > HoundDawg
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > MjrNuT wrote:
>>>> > > Voogru,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > That makes alot of sense.  If you do seriously consider a
>>>> > > stripped down version, I wouldn't mind contributing something
>>>> > > for
>>
>>>> > > your time, and maybe others wouldn't either.  Not saying I'm
>>>> > > speaking for them...but us laymen know that time is money, or
>>>> > > its
>> just fun.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Feel free to contact me separately if you wish, like helping to
>>>> > > prod you more, laymen or not, I'd be glad to as it couldn't
>>>> > > hurt,
>> right?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Thanks for making this a _possibility_,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > [FLASH] MjrNuT
>>>> > > Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality
>>>> > >
>>>> > > www.flamesandash.com
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
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