tbh I could care less... I'm here for the band... but, if I had to guess... your probably honeypot banning and now doing afk bans :p
________________________________ From: msleeper <[email protected]> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 2:33:03 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op? Anyone want to guess my opinion on the matter? On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:07 +0800, Shane Arnold wrote: > This. > > I imagine the purpose of the VAC system is to stop cheats that give an > unfair advantage. Idling in a server, be it by minimised official client > or third-party client is no different. It's still idling. Not to mention > the fact that even if VALVe wanted to design the system to block/ban > this particular client, they couldn't, as the server it connects to is > not VAC secure (probably for exactly that reason, they aren't pretending > to be a legitimate way to play the game). > > People are creating a storm in a teacup about this, it's a very small > percentage of a very large player base that use it. And even then this > whole argument is a moot point, as achievements are now grindable again > to gain unlocks (YAY!). > > /thread > > _______________________________________________________ > > Shane Arnold - [email protected] > > "For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, the > horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For want of a > messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered message > the war was lost." > > > > tgnwells wrote: > > It's not really any different than running TF2 in an idling server and > > minimizing the window, I wouldn't say it's very honest but I wouldn't > > really classify it as a cheat. > > > > And VACs main purpose is protecting the game process, I don't think you > > could get VAC banned from just manipulating the Steam API to perform > > simple tricks like this unless you do it from within the game, while > > connected to a VAC secured server. Although it seems possible if you > > were to try to connect to a legitimate (VAC enabled) server using what > > would appear to be a phony client that VAC might flag your account, > > although I think it'd most likely just refuse the connection. > > > > On 5/31/2009 4:01 PM, SakeFox wrote: > > > >> I really shouldn't be starting in on this since I really want this > >> thread to die, but by your logic using a application to let me see > >> through walls to improve my performance is no difference then using > >> custom materials that let me see through wall for better performance. > >> > >> Donnie Newlove wrote: > >> > >> > >>> In the end the only difference between idling in your app or idling in > >>> TF2 is RAM, CPU and if not minimized, GPU used. It's no more cheating > >>> than running TF2 in DX8 mode to get better performance. > >>> > >>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Cc2iscooL<[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Seeing as it mimics idling in a server even though you're not idling in a > >>>> server it could be considered a cheat. > >>>> > >>>> You're not actually running a game. You're using a program to emulate the > >>>> game's function of connecting to a server. As far as I'm concerned that > >>>> seems like cheating to me. It's like editing your punch times at work to > >>>> say > >>>> you were working when you really took the day off instead, and you're > >>>> still > >>>> getting paid. While you can't really get in trouble if you have nothing > >>>> to > >>>> do all day at work, you can get in trouble for editing your time sheet to > >>>> say you were at work when you actually weren't. > >>>> > >>>> iGiggled > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Cc2iscooL > >>>> Head Admin/Owner > >>>> http://www.cc2iscool.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Philip > >>>> Bembridge<[email protected] > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Valve: feel free to block the program, but please PLEASE after the > >>>>> weapon > >>>>> drop probabilities are geared towards playing well.. similar to the crit > >>>>> calculation!! > >>>>> > >>>>> @ cc2iscool: is this program any different to sitting idle in a server? > >>>>> then > >>>>> sitting in an idle server is cheating... if so, how are you going to > >>>>> strip > >>>>> their achieves? You can't strip one without stripping the other > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>>> please visit: > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>> please visit: > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
