Ironically if you use this program you are 100% safe from any honeypots or blacklisting unless drunken fool decides to publish lists of everyone that has connected... that will probably not happen.
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Robert Whelan <[email protected]> wrote: > tbh I could care less... I'm here for the band... > > but, if I had to guess... your probably honeypot banning and now doing afk > bans :p > > > > > ________________________________ > From: msleeper <[email protected]> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 2:33:03 PM > Subject: Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op? > > Anyone want to guess my opinion on the matter? > > > On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:07 +0800, Shane Arnold wrote: >> This. >> >> I imagine the purpose of the VAC system is to stop cheats that give an >> unfair advantage. Idling in a server, be it by minimised official client >> or third-party client is no different. It's still idling. Not to mention >> the fact that even if VALVe wanted to design the system to block/ban >> this particular client, they couldn't, as the server it connects to is >> not VAC secure (probably for exactly that reason, they aren't pretending >> to be a legitimate way to play the game). >> >> People are creating a storm in a teacup about this, it's a very small >> percentage of a very large player base that use it. And even then this >> whole argument is a moot point, as achievements are now grindable again >> to gain unlocks (YAY!). >> >> /thread >> >> _______________________________________________________ >> >> Shane Arnold - [email protected] >> >> "For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, the >> horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For want of a >> messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered message >> the war was lost." >> >> >> >> tgnwells wrote: >> > It's not really any different than running TF2 in an idling server and >> > minimizing the window, I wouldn't say it's very honest but I wouldn't >> > really classify it as a cheat. >> > >> > And VACs main purpose is protecting the game process, I don't think you >> > could get VAC banned from just manipulating the Steam API to perform >> > simple tricks like this unless you do it from within the game, while >> > connected to a VAC secured server. Although it seems possible if you >> > were to try to connect to a legitimate (VAC enabled) server using what >> > would appear to be a phony client that VAC might flag your account, >> > although I think it'd most likely just refuse the connection. >> > >> > On 5/31/2009 4:01 PM, SakeFox wrote: >> > >> >> I really shouldn't be starting in on this since I really want this >> >> thread to die, but by your logic using a application to let me see >> >> through walls to improve my performance is no difference then using >> >> custom materials that let me see through wall for better performance. >> >> >> >> Donnie Newlove wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> In the end the only difference between idling in your app or idling in >> >>> TF2 is RAM, CPU and if not minimized, GPU used. It's no more cheating >> >>> than running TF2 in DX8 mode to get better performance. >> >>> >> >>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Cc2iscooL<[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> Seeing as it mimics idling in a server even though you're not idling in >> >>>> a >> >>>> server it could be considered a cheat. >> >>>> >> >>>> You're not actually running a game. You're using a program to emulate >> >>>> the >> >>>> game's function of connecting to a server. As far as I'm concerned that >> >>>> seems like cheating to me. It's like editing your punch times at work >> >>>> to say >> >>>> you were working when you really took the day off instead, and you're >> >>>> still >> >>>> getting paid. While you can't really get in trouble if you have nothing >> >>>> to >> >>>> do all day at work, you can get in trouble for editing your time sheet >> >>>> to >> >>>> say you were at work when you actually weren't. >> >>>> >> >>>> iGiggled >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Cc2iscooL >> >>>> Head Admin/Owner >> >>>> http://www.cc2iscool.com >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Philip >> >>>> Bembridge<[email protected] >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Valve: feel free to block the program, but please PLEASE after the >> >>>>> weapon >> >>>>> drop probabilities are geared towards playing well.. similar to the >> >>>>> crit >> >>>>> calculation!! >> >>>>> >> >>>>> @ cc2iscool: is this program any different to sitting idle in a server? >> >>>>> then >> >>>>> sitting in an idle server is cheating... if so, how are you going to >> >>>>> strip >> >>>>> their achieves? You can't strip one without stripping the other >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >>>>> please visit: >> >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >>>> please visit: >> >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >>> please visit: >> >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >> please visit: >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
