What about negative caring?Is there a gauss plane for caring maybe? I think most of this is covered by apathy theory. On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:29 PM, msleeper <[email protected]> wrote:
> The phrase is "couldn't care less". Please refer to this chart: > http://www.msleeper.com/files/caring.png > > What the hell are you people going on about a honeypot. That doesn't > even make sense, I don't think any of you know what that word means. I > was refering to my feelings about the this fake server/client. Jesus, > pay attention people. > > > On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 10:20 -0700, Robert Whelan wrote: > > tbh I could care less... I'm here for the band... > > > > but, if I had to guess... your probably honeypot banning and now doing > afk bans :p > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: msleeper <[email protected]> > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list < > [email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 2:33:03 PM > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op? > > > > Anyone want to guess my opinion on the matter? > > > > > > On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:07 +0800, Shane Arnold wrote: > > > This. > > > > > > I imagine the purpose of the VAC system is to stop cheats that give an > > > unfair advantage. Idling in a server, be it by minimised official > client > > > or third-party client is no different. It's still idling. Not to > mention > > > the fact that even if VALVe wanted to design the system to block/ban > > > this particular client, they couldn't, as the server it connects to is > > > not VAC secure (probably for exactly that reason, they aren't > pretending > > > to be a legitimate way to play the game). > > > > > > People are creating a storm in a teacup about this, it's a very small > > > percentage of a very large player base that use it. And even then this > > > whole argument is a moot point, as achievements are now grindable again > > > to gain unlocks (YAY!). > > > > > > /thread > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > > > > > Shane Arnold - [email protected] > > > > > > "For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, > the horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For want of > a messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered > message the war was lost." > > > > > > > > > > > > tgnwells wrote: > > > > It's not really any different than running TF2 in an idling server > and > > > > minimizing the window, I wouldn't say it's very honest but I wouldn't > > > > really classify it as a cheat. > > > > > > > > And VACs main purpose is protecting the game process, I don't think > you > > > > could get VAC banned from just manipulating the Steam API to perform > > > > simple tricks like this unless you do it from within the game, while > > > > connected to a VAC secured server. Although it seems possible if you > > > > were to try to connect to a legitimate (VAC enabled) server using > what > > > > would appear to be a phony client that VAC might flag your account, > > > > although I think it'd most likely just refuse the connection. > > > > > > > > On 5/31/2009 4:01 PM, SakeFox wrote: > > > > > > > >> I really shouldn't be starting in on this since I really want this > > > >> thread to die, but by your logic using a application to let me see > > > >> through walls to improve my performance is no difference then using > > > >> custom materials that let me see through wall for better > performance. > > > >> > > > >> Donnie Newlove wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> In the end the only difference between idling in your app or idling > in > > > >>> TF2 is RAM, CPU and if not minimized, GPU used. It's no more > cheating > > > >>> than running TF2 in DX8 mode to get better performance. > > > >>> > > > >>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Cc2iscooL<[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> Seeing as it mimics idling in a server even though you're not > idling in a > > > >>>> server it could be considered a cheat. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> You're not actually running a game. You're using a program to > emulate the > > > >>>> game's function of connecting to a server. As far as I'm concerned > that > > > >>>> seems like cheating to me. It's like editing your punch times at > work to say > > > >>>> you were working when you really took the day off instead, and > you're still > > > >>>> getting paid. While you can't really get in trouble if you have > nothing to > > > >>>> do all day at work, you can get in trouble for editing your time > sheet to > > > >>>> say you were at work when you actually weren't. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> iGiggled > > > >>>> > > > >>>> -- > > > >>>> Cc2iscooL > > > >>>> Head Admin/Owner > > > >>>> http://www.cc2iscool.com > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Philip Bembridge< > [email protected] > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Valve: feel free to block the program, but please PLEASE after > the weapon > > > >>>>> drop probabilities are geared towards playing well.. similar to > the crit > > > >>>>> calculation!! > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> @ cc2iscool: is this program any different to sitting idle in a > server? > > > >>>>> then > > > >>>>> sitting in an idle server is cheating... if so, how are you going > to strip > > > >>>>> their achieves? You can't strip one without stripping the other > > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > >>>>> please visit: > > > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > > > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > > > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
