It may not be much of a cpu by today's standards, but it runs a fully loaded
OP4 server and a fully loaded L4D server at 30% cpu. You know, if it ain't
broke, don't fix it. I"ll go back to W2K before I'll spend money upgrading
the box.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryce Quilley" <[email protected]>
To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware


> Installing Win2k8 will make things worse.  You need a minimum of 2GB ram
> for
> it to function.
> Upgrade your CPU man, a Sempron is the cheapest piece of crap and was
> NEVER
> intended for server operation.  At a bare minimum a P4 2.8 with 1GB ram
> will
> run Win2k3 perfectly. Win2k8 will need dual core with 2GB ram.
>
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Kyle Sanderson
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> The general consensus with Server 2008 is it's more... gobbled up than
>> 2003.
>> However if you find it works better for you on older hardware (I would be
>> shocked if it did), please let us know!
>>
>> Kyle.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Ook <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Adding more ram isn't likely to help - it doesn't use what it has
>> > as-is.
>> >
>> > I tried Linux for a while, but hlds used 30% cpu sitting there empty -
>> and
>> > it went downhill from there. This old cpu isn't up to running the linux
>> > hlds
>> > binaries - the general consensus is that valve never bothered to
>> > optimize
>> > them for linux hence they gobble excessive cpu. And yeah, I'm leaning
>> > towards putting Win2k back on the box. I have a copy of server 2008
>> > that
>> I
>> > think I'll install just so I can say I did, and to tell everyone how
>> lousy
>> > it is wiht this older box LOL. Or maybe it will surprise me and
>> > actually
>> > work good?
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Kyle Sanderson" <[email protected]>
>> > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
>> > <[email protected]>
>> > Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 5:53 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware
>> >
>> >
>> > > Why would adding more ram decrease the CPU usage on SRCDS?
>> > >
>> > > If I were you Ook I would go back to Win2000 as Microsoft only gets
>> > > sloppier
>> > > with their new releases of Windows. (Or try Linux, although from my
>> > > experiences SRCDS tends to use more CPU and Ram on it.)
>> > > Kyle.
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Mike O'Laughlen
>> > > <[email protected]>wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Add more RAM.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Ook <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > I have an older box, AMD Sempron 2400+, 1GB ram, that I use for to
>> run
>> > >> > an
>> > >> > OP4 server (hlds.exe) and a L4D server (srcds.exe). With Win2000
>> > >> > and
>> > >> > both
>> > >> > servers full, cpu is about 30%.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I upgraded it from Win2000 to server 2003, and when I did I
>> > >> > noticed
>> a
>> > >> > significant increase in cpu consumption. On the Winserver 2003
>> > >> > box,
>> it
>> > >> used
>> > >> > 80-90% cpu. My first guess was that the cpu scheduler in server
>> > >> > 2003
>> > >> > has
>> > >> > more overhead and the context switches were using up all the extra
>> > cpu.
>> > >> My
>> > >> > second guess was that I really didn't have a clue why. On both
>> > >> > installations
>> > >> > I stopped all services I didn't think needed to be running.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I have a copy of Server 2008, but I'm thinking this box may be too
>> old
>> > >> > to
>> > >> > run that. Also performance under 2003 wasn't that great, I'm not
>> sure
>> > >> > it
>> > >> > would be any better under 2008.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Anyone have experience running server 2003/2008 on older hardware
>> re.
>> > >> > performance?
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
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