Hell, you can get used P4 desktops for as cheap as $50... On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 7:07 AM, Derek Denholm <[email protected]> wrote: > > Honestly, it is very cheap now to buy an old used dual core / 2gb of memory > for ~$120 and then send it off to a data center and will save you alot of > hassle. > >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:04:12 -0700 >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware >> >> It may not be much of a cpu by today's standards, but it runs a fully loaded >> OP4 server and a fully loaded L4D server at 30% cpu. You know, if it ain't >> broke, don't fix it. I"ll go back to W2K before I'll spend money upgrading >> the box. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bryce Quilley" <[email protected]> >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 6:47 PM >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware >> >> >> > Installing Win2k8 will make things worse. You need a minimum of 2GB ram >> > for >> > it to function. >> > Upgrade your CPU man, a Sempron is the cheapest piece of crap and was >> > NEVER >> > intended for server operation. At a bare minimum a P4 2.8 with 1GB ram >> > will >> > run Win2k3 perfectly. Win2k8 will need dual core with 2GB ram. >> > >> > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Kyle Sanderson >> > <[email protected]>wrote: >> > >> >> The general consensus with Server 2008 is it's more... gobbled up than >> >> 2003. >> >> However if you find it works better for you on older hardware (I would be >> >> shocked if it did), please let us know! >> >> >> >> Kyle. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Ook <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Adding more ram isn't likely to help - it doesn't use what it has >> >> > as-is. >> >> > >> >> > I tried Linux for a while, but hlds used 30% cpu sitting there empty - >> >> and >> >> > it went downhill from there. This old cpu isn't up to running the linux >> >> > hlds >> >> > binaries - the general consensus is that valve never bothered to >> >> > optimize >> >> > them for linux hence they gobble excessive cpu. And yeah, I'm leaning >> >> > towards putting Win2k back on the box. I have a copy of server 2008 >> >> > that >> >> I >> >> > think I'll install just so I can say I did, and to tell everyone how >> >> lousy >> >> > it is wiht this older box LOL. Or maybe it will surprise me and >> >> > actually >> >> > work good? >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: "Kyle Sanderson" <[email protected]> >> >> > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" >> >> > <[email protected]> >> >> > Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 5:53 PM >> >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > Why would adding more ram decrease the CPU usage on SRCDS? >> >> > > >> >> > > If I were you Ook I would go back to Win2000 as Microsoft only gets >> >> > > sloppier >> >> > > with their new releases of Windows. (Or try Linux, although from my >> >> > > experiences SRCDS tends to use more CPU and Ram on it.) >> >> > > Kyle. >> >> > > >> >> > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Mike O'Laughlen >> >> > > <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > >> Add more RAM. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Ook <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > I have an older box, AMD Sempron 2400+, 1GB ram, that I use for to >> >> run >> >> > >> > an >> >> > >> > OP4 server (hlds.exe) and a L4D server (srcds.exe). With Win2000 >> >> > >> > and >> >> > >> > both >> >> > >> > servers full, cpu is about 30%. >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > I upgraded it from Win2000 to server 2003, and when I did I >> >> > >> > noticed >> >> a >> >> > >> > significant increase in cpu consumption. On the Winserver 2003 >> >> > >> > box, >> >> it >> >> > >> used >> >> > >> > 80-90% cpu. My first guess was that the cpu scheduler in server >> >> > >> > 2003 >> >> > >> > has >> >> > >> > more overhead and the context switches were using up all the extra >> >> > cpu. >> >> > >> My >> >> > >> > second guess was that I really didn't have a clue why. On both >> >> > >> > installations >> >> > >> > I stopped all services I didn't think needed to be running. >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > I have a copy of Server 2008, but I'm thinking this box may be too >> >> old >> >> > >> > to >> >> > >> > run that. Also performance under 2003 wasn't that great, I'm not >> >> sure >> >> > >> > it >> >> > >> > would be any better under 2008. >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > Anyone have experience running server 2003/2008 on older hardware >> >> re. >> >> > >> > performance? >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >> archives, >> >> > >> > please visit: >> >> > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> >> > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >> > >> archives, >> >> > >> please visit: >> >> > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ >> >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >> > > archives, >> >> > > please visit: >> >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >> > please visit: >> >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >> please visit: >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _________________________________________________________________ > New! 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