Thanks for the tips guys ;) Kyle.
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 9:28 AM, DLinkOZ <[email protected]> wrote: > I colocated with Colo4Dallas for many years, and never had anything but > awesome service. I don't colocate now, but if the need should ever arise, > that's where I'd go again. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Krasnow > Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 11:07 AM > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware > > i guess but they are highly customizable and the service isnt bad at all > > On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Rens Ariens <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > Leaseweb is known for their prices, not for their support. > > > > > > > > Michael Krasnow schreef: > > > you could also try leaseweb > > > > > > http://www.leaseweb.com/en/colocation > > > > > > they have great service > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:22 AM, turb0z <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > >> Depends on the case form factor. If you have a rack case you should > be > > >> able > > >> to find a host to take your hardware, just be ready to agree to their > > >> support structure around owning your own equipment (some places won't > > offer > > >> much in support). > > >> > > >> I host my 1U Quad Core with colocrossing.com and have been very > > satisfied. > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: [email protected] > > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kyle > > Sanderson > > >> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 3:26 AM > > >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware > > >> > > >> Derek, I've been trying to find a datacenter that will take my own > > hardware > > >> for quite a while now. Do you know of any off hand that support this? > > >> > > >> Kyle. > > >> > > >> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Derek Denholm > > >> <[email protected]>wrote: > > >> > > >>> Honestly, it is very cheap now to buy an old used dual core / 2gb of > > >>> memory for ~$120 and then send it off to a data center and will save > > you > > >>> alot of hassle. > > >>> > > >>>> From: [email protected] > > >>>> To: [email protected] > > >>>> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:04:12 -0700 > > >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware > > >>>> > > >>>> It may not be much of a cpu by today's standards, but it runs a > fully > > >>> loaded > > >>>> OP4 server and a fully loaded L4D server at 30% cpu. You know, if it > > >>> ain't > > >>>> broke, don't fix it. I"ll go back to W2K before I'll spend money > > >>> upgrading > > >>>> the box. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>> From: "Bryce Quilley" <[email protected]> > > >>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > > >>>> <[email protected]> > > >>>> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 6:47 PM > > >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> Installing Win2k8 will make things worse. You need a minimum of 2GB > > >> ram > > >>>>> for > > >>>>> it to function. > > >>>>> Upgrade your CPU man, a Sempron is the cheapest piece of crap and > was > > >>>>> NEVER > > >>>>> intended for server operation. At a bare minimum a P4 2.8 with 1GB > > >> ram > > >>>>> will > > >>>>> run Win2k3 perfectly. Win2k8 will need dual core with 2GB ram. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Kyle Sanderson > > >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> The general consensus with Server 2008 is it's more... gobbled up > > >> than > > >>>>>> 2003. > > >>>>>> However if you find it works better for you on older hardware (I > > >> would > > >>> be > > >>>>>> shocked if it did), please let us know! > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Kyle. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Ook <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Adding more ram isn't likely to help - it doesn't use what it has > > >>>>>>> as-is. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I tried Linux for a while, but hlds used 30% cpu sitting there > > >> empty > > >>> - > > >>>>>> and > > >>>>>>> it went downhill from there. This old cpu isn't up to running the > > >>> linux > > >>>>>>> hlds > > >>>>>>> binaries - the general consensus is that valve never bothered to > > >>>>>>> optimize > > >>>>>>> them for linux hence they gobble excessive cpu. And yeah, I'm > > >>> leaning > > >>>>>>> towards putting Win2k back on the box. I have a copy of server > > >> 2008 > > >>>>>>> that > > >>>>>> I > > >>>>>>> think I'll install just so I can say I did, and to tell everyone > > >> how > > >>>>>> lousy > > >>>>>>> it is wiht this older box LOL. Or maybe it will surprise me and > > >>>>>>> actually > > >>>>>>> work good? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>>>>> From: "Kyle Sanderson" <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > > >>>>>>> <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 5:53 PM > > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older > > >> hardware > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Why would adding more ram decrease the CPU usage on SRCDS? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> If I were you Ook I would go back to Win2000 as Microsoft only > > >>> gets > > >>>>>>>> sloppier > > >>>>>>>> with their new releases of Windows. (Or try Linux, although from > > >>> my > > >>>>>>>> experiences SRCDS tends to use more CPU and Ram on it.) > > >>>>>>>> Kyle. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Mike O'Laughlen > > >>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Add more RAM. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Ook <[email protected]> > > >>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> I have an older box, AMD Sempron 2400+, 1GB ram, that I use > > >> for > > >>> to > > >>>>>> run > > >>>>>>>>>> an > > >>>>>>>>>> OP4 server (hlds.exe) and a L4D server (srcds.exe). With > > >>> Win2000 > > >>>>>>>>>> and > > >>>>>>>>>> both > > >>>>>>>>>> servers full, cpu is about 30%. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> I upgraded it from Win2000 to server 2003, and when I did I > > >>>>>>>>>> noticed > > >>>>>> a > > >>>>>>>>>> significant increase in cpu consumption. On the Winserver > > >> 2003 > > >>>>>>>>>> box, > > >>>>>> it > > >>>>>>>>> used > > >>>>>>>>>> 80-90% cpu. My first guess was that the cpu scheduler in > > >> server > > >>>>>>>>>> 2003 > > >>>>>>>>>> has > > >>>>>>>>>> more overhead and the context switches were using up all the > > >>> extra > > >>>>>>> cpu. > > >>>>>>>>> My > > >>>>>>>>>> second guess was that I really didn't have a clue why. On > > >> both > > >>>>>>>>>> installations > > >>>>>>>>>> I stopped all services I didn't think needed to be running. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> I have a copy of Server 2008, but I'm thinking this box may > > >> be > > >>> too > > >>>>>> old > > >>>>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>> run that. Also performance under 2003 wasn't that great, I'm > > >>> not > > >>>>>> sure > > >>>>>>>>>> it > > >>>>>>>>>> would be any better under 2008. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Anyone have experience running server 2003/2008 on older > > >>> hardware > > >>>>>> re. > > >>>>>>>>>> performance? > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >>>>>> archives, > > >>>>>>>>>> please visit: > > >>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >>>>>>>>> archives, > > >>>>>>>>> please visit: > > >>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >>>>>>>> archives, > > >>>>>>>> please visit: > > >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >>> archives, > > >>>>>>> please visit: > > >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >> archives, > > >>>>>> please visit: > > >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >> archives, > > >>>>> please visit: > > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > >>> please visit: > > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>> _________________________________________________________________ > > >>> New! 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