DontWannaName,

Do you run any kind of shenanigans on your server? I think it's been about a
month since valve implemented blacklisting (in fact, almost a month to the
day)

http://store.steampowered.com/news/3308/

Your servers are showing up on some blacklists, including: 

http://tf2stats.net/fake_players/

and

http://tf2app.com/blacklist/servers.php (As Top Notch Clan)

Are you sure your decline in popularity isn't because of people utilizing
these blacklists?

Perhaps it would be wise to remove the offending fake player plug-ins and
contact the managers of the blacklists for removal, and leave the offending
plug-ins off the server.

- voogru.

-----Original Message-----
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of DontWannaName!
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:33 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

That is completely different. This has been going on for a month now.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Craig H <robolea...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I almost forgot! Valve is going to be performing maintenance on Steam as a
> whole today, seeing as Valve is on the west coast, they are probably
> starting there.
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:25 PM, DontWannaName! <ad...@topnotchclan.com
> >wrote:
>
> > I am positive, there are barely any servers on the west coast. The
> > heartbeat
> > is a work around but whoever is doing it, is sending the packets so fast
> > that its almost impossible to combat it.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Craig H <robolea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > It would take an extremely large and organized group of individuals to
> > > actually do what you are claiming. Are you certain that you are being
> > > blacklisted? You may just be having problems with your connection to
> the
> > > master servers.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:13 PM, DontWannaName! <ad...@topnotchclan.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > It seems that someone, not valve, is delisting most of the west
coast
> > > > making
> > > > it so our servers do not show in any list except in favorites. This
> is
> > > > severely hurting our population and forcing users to find servers
> > > > elsewhere.
> > > > Whoever is doing this doesnt want people joining servers on the west
> > > coast.
> > > > For whatever real reason they are doing it, in the end Valve needs
to
> > fix
> > > > this. This has been going on for at least a month now and by posting
> > this
> > > I
> > > > hope to reach more affected server owns.
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