That's funny. My clan's TF2 server, which we just took down, is showing up
on the first blacklist you have there. All we had running was the Valve
created bots for the maps that they can play on and we some how got on that
list.. oh well, took the server down anyway because there wasn't enough
interest in my clan.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald <
[email protected]> wrote:

> DontWannaName,
>
> Do you run any kind of shenanigans on your server? I think it's been about
> a
> month since valve implemented blacklisting (in fact, almost a month to the
> day)
>
> http://store.steampowered.com/news/3308/
>
> Your servers are showing up on some blacklists, including:
>
> http://tf2stats.net/fake_players/
>
> and
>
> http://tf2app.com/blacklist/servers.php (As Top Notch Clan)
>
> Are you sure your decline in popularity isn't because of people utilizing
> these blacklists?
>
> Perhaps it would be wise to remove the offending fake player plug-ins and
> contact the managers of the blacklists for removal, and leave the offending
> plug-ins off the server.
>
> - voogru.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of DontWannaName!
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:33 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted
>
> That is completely different. This has been going on for a month now.
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Craig H <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I almost forgot! Valve is going to be performing maintenance on Steam as
> a
> > whole today, seeing as Valve is on the west coast, they are probably
> > starting there.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:25 PM, DontWannaName! <[email protected]
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > I am positive, there are barely any servers on the west coast. The
> > > heartbeat
> > > is a work around but whoever is doing it, is sending the packets so
> fast
> > > that its almost impossible to combat it.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Craig H <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > It would take an extremely large and organized group of individuals
> to
> > > > actually do what you are claiming. Are you certain that you are being
> > > > blacklisted? You may just be having problems with your connection to
> > the
> > > > master servers.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:13 PM, DontWannaName! <
> [email protected]
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It seems that someone, not valve, is delisting most of the west
> coast
> > > > > making
> > > > > it so our servers do not show in any list except in favorites. This
> > is
> > > > > severely hurting our population and forcing users to find servers
> > > > > elsewhere.
> > > > > Whoever is doing this doesnt want people joining servers on the
> west
> > > > coast.
> > > > > For whatever real reason they are doing it, in the end Valve needs
> to
> > > fix
> > > > > this. This has been going on for at least a month now and by
> posting
> > > this
> > > > I
> > > > > hope to reach more affected server owns.
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