We seem to be doing fine. We're Seattle based and still show up on all server lists. Thing is, we're showing up on this amateur blacklist:
http://tf2stats.net/fake_players/ I talked with some other server operators on that list, that like us, don't use fake clients. It seems that list is picking up on the use of bots. We loaded some bots on our server for a few nights after they were released; usually bots vs humans. Good fun, but we grew bored of them and went back to our almost vanilla server. This list however seems to be more accurate: http://tf2app.com/blacklist/servers.php In the end players shouldn't rely on anything but themselves through trial & error and Valve to filter out bad servers. The top notch clan cleary has some suspect things going on, so it's not surprising they're having issues. _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

