I dont know why people think I run fake clients, those black lists are all
unconfirmed and could have been added by some angry player which is why they
are flawed. Whether my server use has decreased or not, servers are not
showing on the list.

It is uncofirmed if this could be an issue with Valve's master server itself
but I have my doubts a bug would occur there.

This is a screenshot just a few seconds ago. I have selected US West as
location and not password protected.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h309/DontWannaName123/bug-3.png

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Don Williams <[email protected]> wrote:

> I see 2 of my 3 servers in that list.. I've noticed too the same thing with
> my other server.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:46 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted
>
> It wouldn't take much to delist every single West Coast server, I'm sure it
> would be more than possible to do it with a simple 10mbit box. For instance
> at one point I was able to view my server in the server browser just fine,
> now my test server is well... Unknown to the masses, than again this only
> started happening a couple weeks ago. I just checked now and I still don't
> see it. This is however most likely unrelated to your issue DWN.
>
> My steam server list:
> http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5486/listf.jpg
>
> Kyle.
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:33 PM, DontWannaName!
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > That is completely different. This has been going on for a month now.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Craig H <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > I almost forgot! Valve is going to be performing maintenance on Steam
> as
> > a
> > > whole today, seeing as Valve is on the west coast, they are probably
> > > starting there.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:25 PM, DontWannaName! <[email protected]
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am positive, there are barely any servers on the west coast. The
> > > > heartbeat
> > > > is a work around but whoever is doing it, is sending the packets so
> > fast
> > > > that its almost impossible to combat it.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Craig H <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It would take an extremely large and organized group of individuals
> > to
> > > > > actually do what you are claiming. Are you certain that you are
> being
> > > > > blacklisted? You may just be having problems with your connection
> to
> > > the
> > > > > master servers.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:13 PM, DontWannaName! <
> > [email protected]
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > It seems that someone, not valve, is delisting most of the west
> > coast
> > > > > > making
> > > > > > it so our servers do not show in any list except in favorites.
> This
> > > is
> > > > > > severely hurting our population and forcing users to find servers
> > > > > > elsewhere.
> > > > > > Whoever is doing this doesnt want people joining servers on the
> > west
> > > > > coast.
> > > > > > For whatever real reason they are doing it, in the end Valve
> needs
> > to
> > > > fix
> > > > > > this. This has been going on for at least a month now and by
> > posting
> > > > this
> > > > > I
> > > > > > hope to reach more affected server owns.
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