I didn't join every single server that I'm not familiar with on the
blacklist,
but the blacklist seems very accurate to me.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald <
[email protected]> wrote:

> DontWannaName,
>
> Is 68.68.32.217:27015 is one of your servers?
>
> nslookup 68.68.32.217
> Server:  home
> Address:  192.168.1.254
>
> Name:    TopNotchClan.com
> Address:  68.68.32.217
>
> "I dont know why people think I run fake clients"
>
> The output of "meta list" on your server seems to declare otherwise.
>
> I included the status to show it's your server (and included a screenshot).
> So this statement you just made to the list is verifiably false.
>
> hostname:   (-TN-) 24/7 BADWATER/GOLDRUSH [HLSTATSX]
> version : 1.0.8.2/15 4105 secure
> udp/ip  :  68.68.32.217:27015
> map     : pl_goldrush at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z
> players : 23 (32 max)
>
> # userid name uniqueid connected ping loss state
> # 656 "Mace" STEAM_0:1:17067890 04:47 104 0 active
> # 652 "(604) EmpTy.ws" STEAM_0:0:14413027 08:11 71 0 active
> # 640 "Emperor Norton" STEAM_0:0:18677953 23:31 55 0 active
> # 619 "Hamburglar" STEAM_0:0:24508093  1:13:16 46 0 active
> # 644 "(-TN-) duncan db" STEAM_0:0:6646078 14:54 52 0 active
> # 657 "Adiuvo" STEAM_0:0:24559447 04:28 52 0 active
> # 621 "prophet /̵͇̿/'̿-̅-" STEAM_0:1:346214  1:04:04 48 0 active
> # 622 "Necron99" STEAM_0:0:11138643  1:02:51 69 0 active
> # 630 "a# - Auburn" STEAM_0:0:19899268 42:10 92 0 active
> # 654 "Do Not Feed The Trolls" STEAM_0:0:25091821 06:23 142 0 active
> # 655 "Graham" STEAM_0:0:1264864 05:10 49 0 active
> # 632 "Harusame Mizukishi" STEAM_0:1:27360078 39:36 78 0 active
> # 633 "(-TN-) the stig" STEAM_0:1:10849346 37:29 67 0 active
> # 642 "Stig-a-holic" STEAM_0:1:5511593 22:15 81 0 active
> # 647 "JOEx213" STEAM_0:0:15905280 13:27 58 0 active
> # 658 "Spicychicken" STEAM_0:1:6391583 02:40 79 0 active
> # 649 "The Turbinator" STEAM_0:1:18998315 12:25 247 0 active
> # 650 "spasm" STEAM_0:0:27043313 12:10 87 0 active
> # 651 ".Monkey" STEAM_0:1:20832704 11:57 175 0 active
> # 659 "Boni" STEAM_0:0:17026514 01:47 152 0 active
> # 660 "pisssant" STEAM_0:0:298430 00:51 73 0 active
> Mace killed (604) EmpTy.ws with sniperrifle. (crit)
> ] meta list
>  [01] FAKE CLIENTS Plugin (1.0.0.0) by AzuiSleet
>  [02] D-FENS (1.1) by Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald
>  [03] SourceMod (1.4.0-dev) by AlliedModders LLC
>  [04] TF2 Tools (1.4.0-dev) by AlliedModders LLC
>  [05] BinTools (1.4.0-dev) by AlliedModders LLC
>  [06] SDK Tools (1.4.0-dev) by AlliedModders LLC
>
> Screenshot in case the list screws this up:
> http://www.voogru.com/images/fakeclients.jpg
>
> So yeah, I think this rules out the angry player scenario.
>
> DontWannaName, we weren't born yesterday. So please don't insult the
> intelligence of the people on the list by lying to them when you are having
> issues.
>
> Lying to players (via fakeclients) is a dumb idea, lying to a bunch of
> experienced server operators is a really dumb idea.
>
> - voogru
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of DontWannaName!
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:23 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted
>
> I dont know why people think I run fake clients, those black lists are all
> unconfirmed and could have been added by some angry player which is why
> they
> are flawed. Whether my server use has decreased or not, servers are not
> showing on the list.
>
> It is uncofirmed if this could be an issue with Valve's master server
> itself
> but I have my doubts a bug would occur there.
>
> This is a screenshot just a few seconds ago. I have selected US West as
> location and not password protected.
>
> http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h309/DontWannaName123/bug-3.png
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Don Williams <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I see 2 of my 3 servers in that list.. I've noticed too the same thing
> with
> > my other server.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson
> > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:46 PM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted
> >
> > It wouldn't take much to delist every single West Coast server, I'm sure
> it
> > would be more than possible to do it with a simple 10mbit box. For
> instance
> > at one point I was able to view my server in the server browser just
> fine,
> > now my test server is well... Unknown to the masses, than again this only
> > started happening a couple weeks ago. I just checked now and I still
> don't
> > see it. This is however most likely unrelated to your issue DWN.
> >
> > My steam server list:
> > http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5486/listf.jpg
> >
> > Kyle.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:33 PM, DontWannaName!
> > <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > > That is completely different. This has been going on for a month now.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Craig H <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I almost forgot! Valve is going to be performing maintenance on Steam
> > as
> > > a
> > > > whole today, seeing as Valve is on the west coast, they are probably
> > > > starting there.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:25 PM, DontWannaName! <
> [email protected]
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I am positive, there are barely any servers on the west coast. The
> > > > > heartbeat
> > > > > is a work around but whoever is doing it, is sending the packets so
> > > fast
> > > > > that its almost impossible to combat it.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Craig H <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > It would take an extremely large and organized group of
> individuals
> > > to
> > > > > > actually do what you are claiming. Are you certain that you are
> > being
> > > > > > blacklisted? You may just be having problems with your connection
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > master servers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:13 PM, DontWannaName! <
> > > [email protected]
> > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > It seems that someone, not valve, is delisting most of the west
> > > coast
> > > > > > > making
> > > > > > > it so our servers do not show in any list except in favorites.
> > This
> > > > is
> > > > > > > severely hurting our population and forcing users to find
> servers
> > > > > > > elsewhere.
> > > > > > > Whoever is doing this doesnt want people joining servers on the
> > > west
> > > > > > coast.
> > > > > > > For whatever real reason they are doing it, in the end Valve
> > needs
> > > to
> > > > > fix
> > > > > > > this. This has been going on for at least a month now and by
> > > posting
> > > > > this
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > hope to reach more affected server owns.
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