DontWannaName!,

You should remove the plugin before Valve delists when it sees it loaded.

"I know I was pointing my gun at you, but I was not going to shoot"

Allan

-----Original Message-----
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of DontWannaName!
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:14 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

I never said I didnt have it loaded. Sure its there but I dont use it, if I 
were to run fake clients dont you think I would hand L duke or perhaps Pred a 
few bucks.

Try not to get off topic, this thread isnt just about me its about how the west 
coast is being delisted.


On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald < voo...@voogru.com> 
wrote:

> DontWannaName,
>
> Is 68.68.32.217:27015 is one of your servers?
>
> nslookup 68.68.32.217
> Server:  home
> Address:  192.168.1.254
>
> Name:    TopNotchClan.com
> Address:  68.68.32.217
>
> "I dont know why people think I run fake clients"
>
> The output of "meta list" on your server seems to declare otherwise.
>
> I included the status to show it's your server (and included a screenshot).
> So this statement you just made to the list is verifiably false.
>
> hostname:   (-TN-) 24/7 BADWATER/GOLDRUSH [HLSTATSX]
> version : 1.0.8.2/15 4105 secure
> udp/ip  :  68.68.32.217:27015
> map     : pl_goldrush at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z
> players : 23 (32 max)
>
> # userid name uniqueid connected ping loss state # 656 "Mace" 
> STEAM_0:1:17067890 04:47 104 0 active # 652 "(604) EmpTy.ws" 
> STEAM_0:0:14413027 08:11 71 0 active # 640 "Emperor Norton" 
> STEAM_0:0:18677953 23:31 55 0 active # 619 "Hamburglar" 
> STEAM_0:0:24508093  1:13:16 46 0 active # 644 "(-TN-) duncan db" 
> STEAM_0:0:6646078 14:54 52 0 active # 657 "Adiuvo" STEAM_0:0:24559447 
> 04:28 52 0 active # 621 "prophet /̵͇̿/'̿-̅-" STEAM_0:1:346214  1:04:04 
> 48 0 active # 622 "Necron99" STEAM_0:0:11138643  1:02:51 69 0 active # 
> 630 "a# - Auburn" STEAM_0:0:19899268 42:10 92 0 active # 654 "Do Not 
> Feed The Trolls" STEAM_0:0:25091821 06:23 142 0 active # 655 "Graham" 
> STEAM_0:0:1264864 05:10 49 0 active # 632 "Harusame Mizukishi" 
> STEAM_0:1:27360078 39:36 78 0 active # 633 "(-TN-) the stig" 
> STEAM_0:1:10849346 37:29 67 0 active # 642 "Stig-a-holic" 
> STEAM_0:1:5511593 22:15 81 0 active # 647 "JOEx213" STEAM_0:0:15905280 
> 13:27 58 0 active # 658 "Spicychicken" STEAM_0:1:6391583 02:40 79 0 
> active # 649 "The Turbinator" STEAM_0:1:18998315 12:25 247 0 active # 
> 650 "spasm" STEAM_0:0:27043313 12:10 87 0 active # 651 ".Monkey" 
> STEAM_0:1:20832704 11:57 175 0 active # 659 "Boni" STEAM_0:0:17026514 
> 01:47 152 0 active # 660 "pisssant" STEAM_0:0:298430 00:51 73 0 active 
> Mace killed (604) EmpTy.ws with sniperrifle. (crit) ] meta list  [01] 
> FAKE CLIENTS Plugin (1.0.0.0) by AzuiSleet  [02] D-FENS (1.1) by 
> Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald  [03] SourceMod (1.4.0-dev) by 
> AlliedModders LLC  [04] TF2 Tools (1.4.0-dev) by AlliedModders LLC  
> [05] BinTools (1.4.0-dev) by AlliedModders LLC  [06] SDK Tools 
> (1.4.0-dev) by AlliedModders LLC
>
> Screenshot in case the list screws this up:
> http://www.voogru.com/images/fakeclients.jpg
>
> So yeah, I think this rules out the angry player scenario.
>
> DontWannaName, we weren't born yesterday. So please don't insult the 
> intelligence of the people on the list by lying to them when you are 
> having issues.
>
> Lying to players (via fakeclients) is a dumb idea, lying to a bunch of 
> experienced server operators is a really dumb idea.
>
> - voogru
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of DontWannaName!
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:23 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted
>
> I dont know why people think I run fake clients, those black lists are 
> all unconfirmed and could have been added by some angry player which 
> is why they are flawed. Whether my server use has decreased or not, 
> servers are not showing on the list.
>
> It is uncofirmed if this could be an issue with Valve's master server 
> itself but I have my doubts a bug would occur there.
>
> This is a screenshot just a few seconds ago. I have selected US West 
> as location and not password protected.
>
> http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h309/DontWannaName123/bug-3.png
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Don Williams <d...@precdata.com> wrote:
>
> > I see 2 of my 3 servers in that list.. I've noticed too the same 
> > thing
> with
> > my other server.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle 
> > Sanderson
> > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:46 PM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously 
> > Delisted
> >
> > It wouldn't take much to delist every single West Coast server, I'm 
> > sure
> it
> > would be more than possible to do it with a simple 10mbit box. For
> instance
> > at one point I was able to view my server in the server browser just
> fine,
> > now my test server is well... Unknown to the masses, than again this 
> > only started happening a couple weeks ago. I just checked now and I 
> > still
> don't
> > see it. This is however most likely unrelated to your issue DWN.
> >
> > My steam server list:
> > http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5486/listf.jpg
> >
> > Kyle.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:33 PM, DontWannaName!
> > <ad...@topnotchclan.com>wrote:
> >
> > > That is completely different. This has been going on for a month now.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Craig H <robolea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I almost forgot! Valve is going to be performing maintenance on 
> > > > Steam
> > as
> > > a
> > > > whole today, seeing as Valve is on the west coast, they are 
> > > > probably starting there.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:25 PM, DontWannaName! <
> ad...@topnotchclan.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I am positive, there are barely any servers on the west coast. 
> > > > > The heartbeat is a work around but whoever is doing it, is 
> > > > > sending the packets so
> > > fast
> > > > > that its almost impossible to combat it.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Craig H <robolea...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > It would take an extremely large and organized group of
> individuals
> > > to
> > > > > > actually do what you are claiming. Are you certain that you 
> > > > > > are
> > being
> > > > > > blacklisted? You may just be having problems with your 
> > > > > > connection
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > master servers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:13 PM, DontWannaName! <
> > > ad...@topnotchclan.com
> > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > It seems that someone, not valve, is delisting most of the 
> > > > > > > west
> > > coast
> > > > > > > making
> > > > > > > it so our servers do not show in any list except in favorites.
> > This
> > > > is
> > > > > > > severely hurting our population and forcing users to find
> servers
> > > > > > > elsewhere.
> > > > > > > Whoever is doing this doesnt want people joining servers 
> > > > > > > on the
> > > west
> > > > > > coast.
> > > > > > > For whatever real reason they are doing it, in the end 
> > > > > > > Valve
> > needs
> > > to
> > > > > fix
> > > > > > > this. This has been going on for at least a month now and 
> > > > > > > by
> > > posting
> > > > > this
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > hope to reach more affected server owns.
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