Why not stand up and be good-guy russian hosting firm? Make your
product better than the pireted, like provide mods only working on
newer versions of css servers etc.

2012/4/30 Secv74 <[email protected]>:
> Maavrik <maavrikftw <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>>
>>
>> I think he could be trying to say that the hosting services in his country 
>> are
> selling pirated servers instead of actual servers, and that he may want to try
> to compete with the services by hosting actual servers.  I dunno however, it's
> just a guess.
>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Team BOOM! <teamboom <at> comcast.net> 
>> wrote:
>> My Friends,
>> We shouldn't even bother discussing this on the list. He's asking about
>> using illegal software practices. He can go elsewhere to search for this
>> information. This is an Official Valve server list. I can't believe you guys
>> are even replying to him. All he wants to know is if he will get caught or
>> sanctioned for being the catalyst to illegal software activity. Valve and
>> the rest of us legit operators suffer when people like these work their
>> magic. Please don't help him, it only hurts the people doing the right
>> thing.
>> Just my two cents.
>> Mike
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: hlds-bounces <at> list.valvesoftware.com
>> [mailto:hlds-bounces <at> list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
>> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 10:35 AM
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Game hosting
>> That's what i think he means too. It's kind of hard to compete with
>> legit version over the cheap pirated servers, especially on CS/CSS scene.
>> -ics
>> 29.4.2012 20:27, Ravnox kirjoitti:
>> > Secv74, if you are using Google translate or some such service to
>> > translate from Russian to English, it is doing a terrible job and it
>> > is very hard to understand what it is exactly that you are trying to
>> > achieve.
>> >
>> > If I understand correctly, you want to offer legit dedicated Source
>> > gaming servers that players can rent. However, you are worry that
>> > there is no market to offer such services because of the proliferation
>> > of illegal servers that allow unregistered copies of games to connect.
>> > So, you are wondering if Valve are doing anything to shutdown or
>> > "fine" those servers operators. Is that it?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ravnox
>> >
>> >
>> > Quoting Secv74 <secv74 <at> yandex.ru>:
>> >
>> >> Cc2iscooL <cc2iscool <at> gmail.com> writes:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Neither Valve nor this mailing list will give you any support on
>> >>> your pirated
>> >> servers. Buy the game.
>> >>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Secv74 <secv74 <at> yandex.ru>
>> >>> wrote:Hi
>> >>> We want to open your game hosting. But we are interested in one
>> >>> question. Valve monitors that provide for hosting pirated css server?
>> >>> In our region - Russia, a lot of customers pirated the game.
>> >>> Therefore, we would like to know whether or not they are prohibited.
>> >>> Many official hosting server we sell the old version of the game css
>> >>> and cssv70 and have nothing for it did not. We are ready to compete,
>> >>> but competition must be fair. Hence the question:
>> >>> 1 Can a game server hosting is provided pirated css, l4d and other
>> >>> (ks16
>> >>> with the situation clear, but now with other games - no)
>> >>> 2 If allowed, what sanctions can be imposed?
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>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> You do not understand the meaning, or simply through an interpreter
>> >> went bad.
>> >> We want to rent only to steam servers, but there are many hosting
>> >> services in
>> >> our country who are quietly selling pirated css server. Therefore,
>> >> the question
>> >> is how do Valvel oversees the hosting, or you can provide years of
>> >> pirate server
>> >> and we do not?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>
> Thank you guys for your answers. And excuse me for my bad english
>
> I see many of my questions are perceived not entirely correct. Postrayus easy 
> to
> explain. And I hope that anyone of you would clarify
>
> We want to open the game hosting. We plan to sell only steam server. Only 
> steam.
> However, in our country a lot of players with a pirated version of the game -
> potential customers for pirated servers. Steam players is several times 
> smaller.
> To compete with pirated server hosting is provided, it is very difficult. 
> Since
> their income will clearly be more due to pirated servers.
>
> We want to understand whether or not we engage in this business or not, 
> because
> if Valve still for such hosting, it is likely that we will not stand the
> competition, or at least our revenue will be much smaller and therefore we 
> will
> be more difficult to develop
>
> An example of the European hosting
> http://www.multiplaygameservers.com/game-servers/ (css only license - we are
> ready to compete with the likes of hosting)
> http://www.verygames.net/product/13/Game_server/buy_hosting_rental_Server_Only
> (css only license - we are ready to compete with the likes of hosting)
> http://www.i3d.net/gamehosting-games.php (css only license - we are ready to
> compete with the likes of hosting)
>
> The situation in our country (3 large hosting)
> http://www.forteam.ru/ru/services (css only license - we are ready to compete
> with the likes of hosting)
> http://www.serva4ok.ru/order (steam + css css the old version - so we will 
> play
> host to the income and as a result will not be able to fully compete)
> http://www.myarena.ru/gamemanager.php (steam + css css the old version - so we
> will play host to the income and as a result will not be able to fully 
> compete)
>
> Once again, we are only at the Steam servers. We do not want to sell pirated
> server. But the omission of Valve put us in an unequal footing with other
> hosting companies. Therefore, we think that if Valve anyway, it is likely that
> we do not need to open, or in the long run we will not survive. The market of
> pirated games in our country is very high ...
> A couple of questions.
> 1 css v34, is licensed as a game or it is still a pirate version? (old css)
> 2 Does it make sense to write in Valve? Sent them several emails, no 
> response. I
> think they do not particularly interested in such things
>
> Thank you for your attention, nadesyu this time I will understand everything
> correctly.
>
>
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