Just to make it clear, my ads are MOTD ads that they can close down and that stop playing once they select a team. I did my math off of just those, not including any other forms of ads.
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Daniel Barreiro < [email protected]> wrote: > The ads make 1.50$ per 1000 views with Pinion which is what most use. > > My 4 servers (only one uses quickplay and it doesn't get that many > players) get an average of 2250 hits per day. > > With just the Deathrun server we get around 1500 and Gametracker says that > has an average of 18 players the past month. When I look in game I usually > see 20-32 players. > > > That's one server. Some clans like Lotus have 90 servers according to > Gamemonitor. For some rough math let's say 750 views per server per day on > average between all the servers (It's probably higher). That makes 101$ a > day That's 3030$ a month. The servers are probably hosted on dedicated > servers and not a host so let's say 130$ a month for 6 servers (I don't > know that much about dedi pricing, to specs to servers, so correct me if > I'm wrong). That's 1950$ a month for servers. That leaves 1080$ from > ads a month, then the ridiculous amount money from the donations they get > between all 90 servers. These clans make a LOT of money off of > exploiting the system. > > Lotus charges 10$ a month for donator on all 90 servers. > > Between all 90 servers, 3.8 million tracked players by GameME, and 1901 > slots, let's say 500 donators. That's another 5000$ a month > > I personally think Valve should do something major about it. These > numbers are the reason these clans don't care > > > GameMe says they have 104 servers but I don't feel like redoing my math. > Just take the total and add 100$ or so onto it > > > > *I'm not anti-ad or anti-HTML MOTD, as long as it's to support the server. > * The ads are the reason many communities survive at this point, *including > mine*. When the owners of these exploiting communities are making 6000$ a > month for their own personal gain off of exploiting a free game, I get mad. > > > > Just a note, this math is rough estimates based off of what I know. This > math could be low, high, or even correct. I didn't feel like going through > 90 gametracker pages looking at the stats. > > > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Doctor McKay <[email protected]> > wrote: > > That's what I understand him saying, just more so when they use ads in >> addition to fake clients, since there they're making money off the deceit. >> >> >> >> Dr. McKay >> http://www.doctormckay.com >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Todd Pettit >> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 5:45 PM >> >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Delisting, does it need some changes? >> >> So your problem is with fake clients not Ads, correct? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sampson Rogers" <[email protected]> >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" < >> [email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 5:38:26 PM >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Delisting, does it need some changes? >> >> >> Please don't misunderstand me. I don't have a problem with ads either. My >> servers run them. I have a problem with a community that fools the system >> in to sending players to their servers for their views. This can be abused >> all hours of the day and night. >> ______________________________**_________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds<https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds<https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds<https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >> > >
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