Actually most of my server if not all are below 27. I try and keep the game servers very very unlaggy therefore no 32. The servers do pay for themselves at least in my case.

On 8/10/2012 4:25 PM, DontWannaName! wrote:
Maybe a single ran server. Those are cheap. Maybe 15 bucks for 32 slots.

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On Aug 10, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Cameron Munroe <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Your statement is false as already proved early by someone talking about lotusclan. You can make enough money via ads to at least pay for the bills if you are setup correctly.

On 8/10/2012 4:19 PM, DontWannaName! wrote:
The ads unless ran abusively will not provide enough money to keep a server online. It may supplement the bill but won't pay it all. Something should be done to stop abusive ads.

I also think delisted servers should lose their steam group since it would ruin their ability to leverage past users to mitigate the after effect of their ban.

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On Aug 10, 2012, at 4:14 PM, Cameron Munroe <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Though half or more of the _*legitimate*_ servers also run Ads. So the fact still remains that some servers are breaking the rules. If valve killed ads then good bye community after community. Frankly the world is in a recession and people are more and more into keeping there money in their pockets. So server owners have gone to a new idea called ads to support themselves.

On 8/10/2012 4:11 PM, DontWannaName! wrote:
Ads are pretty relevant to what these servers are doing. Most delisted servers 
so far have also ran these motds in a modified fashion.

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On Aug 10, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Sampson Rogers<[email protected]>  wrote:

The point is that at the moment advertisements aren't really breaking any Valve 
policy. This thread is about more effective ways to handle abusive communities 
through delisting. Can we stop shifting the focus to advertisements?
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