The difference is Red Bull is going out and promoting themselves. You're not promoting yourself when you show an ad in your motd. Instead you're promoting someone else and diluting your community brand.

I feel like this crosses a line where you're no longer trying to run a community, but rather run a business. At that point it seems like the players are being used to feed the business instead of persuaded to stay by running a place that is welcoming and fun.

This is my gut feeling as a player. I also feel like this reflects poorly on not only the server, but on Valve as the developer for allowing this in the game. I can't imagine that was their intention when they put in the web browser for the motd.

On 8/10/2012 6:58 PM, Todd Pettit wrote:
I am? You think pinion is getting bigger and bigger sponsors every week because 
its a failed idea?

You think Red Bull are idiots for having plane races, modifiying mini coopers, hiring 
models, buying a arena football team, hiring a man to jump a ramp on a motorcycle on New 
Years Eve and running thousands of ads until every single one of us cannot possibly 
forget the phrase "Red Bull Gives You Wings"?!?

Well sir you need an education in Economics 101 or you better start thinking 
about what trade school you want to attend.

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You are naive...




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