I recommend other communities try it. 

I have also recommended to pinion to stop the "on connect" ads and to only show 
the ads every 4 rounds or more. I think viewing a 40 second AD after playing 
for 30-40 minutes is a much more reasonable request of players and would do a 
lot to restore the opinion of Pinion. Their plugin should also extend the bonus 
round and show the ads to all players at the same time instead of showing the 
AD to miscellaneous players who have not seen the AD in over 20 minutes. This 
way players are not missing out on setup time and conversations going on while 
they are stuck watching an AD.

----- Original Message -----
From: "[BT]Black V" <[email protected]>
To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:07:11 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Pinion Pot of Gold blacklist?



On that, I would rather give you $1 than ever see pinion ad's too as you'd be 
getting the money rather me funding pinion 




On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Todd Pettit < [email protected] > wrote: 


It is definitely inefficient. I basically still think on a per person basis $1 
minus the fees still probably covers the amount that would be made through 
pinion. We offer VIP packages that have more features and try to promote those 
more. There are other payment methods but I am not trying to get rich just 
enough to cover server costs and a bit more to help pay off student loans. 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yun Huang Yong" < [email protected] > 
To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" < 
[email protected] > 
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 11:35:34 PM 
Subject: Re: [hlds] Pinion Pot of Gold blacklist? 



On 19/02/2013 3:12 PM, Todd Pettit wrote: 
> I offer a pinion bypass to all my players for $1 a month. It already has 
> close to a hundred people who are contributing. So our players obviously like 
> our servers enough to contribute. 

How do you handle the billing? 

I looked around for ways for players to contribute micro-donations and 
most solutions made it crazily inefficient. e.g. PayPal is 2.4% + 30c 
for every transaction. 

I would love a mechanism that allowed players to easily contribute micro 
amounts... :) 

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