You should really talk to valve then because they have an arrangement with pinion and are using it on their own servers. Do you really think communities like skial and lotus who have 40 or more servers each aren't doing this to make a profit? Do you really think they are doing it for the joy of hearing the maximum player complaints? The fact is thousands of players enjoy these communities on a daily basis and both use pinion the last time I checked. There are hundreds of small communities that come and go everyday. If you prefer to play on small communities run by people who have 100 bucks to blow every month you are welcome to play on them. Just don't be surprised when they disappear once the admin gets bored or no longer is interested in funding your "free" gaming.
You must not watch tv, listen to the radio or use the internet since all that "free" material is 100 percent funded by ADs through for profit channels. Welcome to capitalism. ----- Original Message ----- From: "j m" <[email protected]> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:19:55 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Pinion Pot of Gold blacklist? I don't agree with this. It sounds perilously close to extortion; not to mention you are using a freely provided software package (tf2) in order to demand a profit. I fail to see how you have a right to profit from this to pay off your personal debt. On Feb 18, 2013 10:13 PM, "[BT]Black V" < [email protected] > wrote: that is your right to do so On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Todd Pettit < [email protected] > wrote: My point is if you are using you client settings to subvert my server settings then you are hacking. So there is no reason I should not punish players who subvert the ads any differently than someone who spams chat, abuses voting, trolls the server, aimbots, wallhacks, etc. By your reasoning these hacks, cheats, and behaviors are perfectly reasonable to use on any server simply because you are located somewhere else. The second you connect to our server you are taking the slot of a player who actually contributes to the well being of the community and you are just to lazy to join one of hundreds of other servers and not contribute to them. I don't take it personally, by the way, I prevent it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "[BT]Black V" < [email protected] > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" < [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:02:24 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Pinion Pot of Gold blacklist? The game is free NOW. But yes that is my point I would join another server rather than see ads and your point is you feel you have the right to show me those ads It's not a personal attack on you, I don't like ads, where I can avoid them, I do As you server is under you full control, so is my client On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Yun Huang Yong < [email protected] > wrote: On 19/02/2013 3:12 PM, Todd Pettit wrote: I offer a pinion bypass to all my players for $1 a month. It already has close to a hundred people who are contributing. So our players obviously like our servers enough to contribute. How do you handle the billing? I looked around for ways for players to contribute micro-donations and most solutions made it crazily inefficient. e.g. PayPal is 2.4% + 30c for every transaction. I would love a mechanism that allowed players to easily contribute micro amounts... :) ______________________________ _________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware . com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ hlds -- Cheers Terry Wrennall _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Cheers Terry Wrennall _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
