Well, I tend to play on my own servers which I fund myself and have been doing so for a couple years now. I never set out to use valve's game to make a profit because I don't believe in the principle of that. But I guess that's just me. On Feb 18, 2013 10:36 PM, "Todd Pettit" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > You should really talk to valve then because they have an arrangement with > pinion and are using it on their own servers. > Do you really think communities like skial and lotus who have 40 or more > servers each aren't doing this to make a profit? Do you really think they > are doing it for the joy of hearing the maximum player complaints? > The fact is thousands of players enjoy these communities on a daily basis > and both use pinion the last time I checked. There are hundreds of small > communities that come and go everyday. If you prefer to play on small > communities run by people who have 100 bucks to blow every month you are > welcome to play on them. Just don't be surprised when they disappear once > the admin gets bored or no longer is interested in funding your "free" > gaming. > > You must not watch tv, listen to the radio or use the internet since all > that "free" material is 100 percent funded by ADs through for profit > channels. > Welcome to capitalism. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "j m" <[email protected]> > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" < > [email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:19:55 AM > Subject: Re: [hlds] Pinion Pot of Gold blacklist? > > > > > I don't agree with this. It sounds perilously close to extortion; not to > mention you are using a freely provided software package (tf2) in order to > demand a profit. I fail to see how you have a right to profit from this to > pay off your personal debt. > On Feb 18, 2013 10:13 PM, "[BT]Black V" < [email protected] > wrote: > > > > that is your right to do so > > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Todd Pettit < [email protected] > > wrote: > > > My point is if you are using you client settings to subvert my server > settings then you are hacking. So there is no reason I should not punish > players who subvert the ads any differently than someone who spams chat, > abuses voting, trolls the server, aimbots, wallhacks, etc. By your > reasoning these hacks, cheats, and behaviors are perfectly reasonable to > use on any server simply because you are located somewhere else. The second > you connect to our server you are taking the slot of a player who actually > contributes to the well being of the community and you are just to lazy to > join one of hundreds of other servers and not contribute to them. I don't > take it personally, by the way, I prevent it. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "[BT]Black V" < [email protected] > > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" < > [email protected] > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:02:24 AM > Subject: Re: [hlds] Pinion Pot of Gold blacklist? > > > > > > > > > > The game is free NOW. > But yes that is my point I would join another server rather than see ads > > and your point is you feel you have the right to show me those ads > > It's not a personal attack on you, I don't like ads, where I can avoid > them, I do > As you server is under you full control, so is my client > > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Yun Huang Yong < [email protected] > > wrote: > > > > On 19/02/2013 3:12 PM, Todd Pettit wrote: > > > I offer a pinion bypass to all my players for $1 a month. It already has > close to a hundred people who are contributing. So our players obviously > like our servers enough to contribute. > > How do you handle the billing? > > I looked around for ways for players to contribute micro-donations and > most solutions made it crazily inefficient. e.g. PayPal is 2.4% + 30c for > every transaction. > > I would love a mechanism that allowed players to easily contribute micro > amounts... :) > > > > ______________________________ _________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware . com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ hlds > > > > -- > Cheers > > Terry Wrennall > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > -- > Cheers > > Terry Wrennall > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >
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