About a month ago, Valve released an update that prevented servers from reopening the MOTD on clients who joined via Quickplay. This prevents Pinion's timers from working on servers joined via Quickplay/matchmaking.
There is little-to-no incentive to host an MvM matchmaking server. With only 6 player slots, it's extraordinarily difficult to build a community. Additionally, matchmaking will usually fill an MvM server quicker than the server browser can l, so you will have no regulars. So that's why my community doesn't host any MvM servers. Well, that and the fact that most of our members prefer Mann Up. Dr. McKay On Wednesday, June 5, 2013, Jason Tango wrote: > Wow, that's brutal, even if unintended. I can see what they're trying to > do - but this will probably alienate players even more. > > I think the solution to all the player complaints would be to simply > disallow quickplay traffic to Pinion servers. That way, server operators > can still use it if they wish, but they will need to attract & build > traffic the old-fashioned way (via the server browser). > > I honestly think that's the litmus test for a good server environment - > will it stay full without quickplay? For pinion/3rd party ad supported > servers (that interrupt the natural operation/flow of the game to force an > ad on players), I doubt they would survive without being constantly fed > easy traffic. > > ------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 21:00:36 -0400 > From: [email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');> > To: [email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');> > Subject: Re: [hlds] NO to in game advertising > > It's not on purpose. Just a side effect of their implementation. > > What they did was add a dynamic timer. So if there's no ad you can skip > right away, if there is an ad it prevents you from closing it while the ad > is playing. And all of this is queried in real time. So a 13 second ad will > only prevent you for 13 seconds. > > Where as before their system would just force everyone to wait 30 or > whatever seconds. Even when there was no ad. > > Now if you have Pinion blocked in one way or another, it will assume your > video is taking a long time to load and will wait as long as the plugin > allows (which was decreased to 40 seconds in the new plugin or something). > > I haven't looked at the code in a while either, but that's what it was > like before. > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Doctor McKay > <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]> > > wrote: > > Evidently, Pinion has implemented procedures to delay the game for players > who block their ad server in their hosts file. I haven't looked at the code > though, I'm only going from what SPUF has spewed forth. > > Honestly, just blacklisting the servers is your best bet. If you believe > that a server that forces advertisements on its players is of poor quality, > why would you consciously choose to play on it? Regardless, this is a > discussion for SPUF/SPUD, and it's already been beaten into the ground > several times over there. > > > > Doctor McKay > http://www.doctormckay.com > [email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]> > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk > <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]> > > wrote: > > Nah, thats a blacklist for in TF2, so you don't see those servers. > > technically its not a ad-blocker. creating the hosts file to block the > advert server of pinion would be considered such. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Christopher Andrews > <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]> > > > *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list < > [email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 15:35 > > *Subject:* Re: [hlds] NO to in game advertising > > Didn't Dr. McKay already make one? > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Patrick Delle Grazie < > [email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]> > > wrote: > > Here’s an i > > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile
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