You claim 'Harsh Treatment' in the defense of hi-jacking peoples game experience, REALLY? It's obviously an abuse hidden in background subterfuge. If you are collecting information about visitors then do it in the light of day, such as displaying in chat a survey page url or similar. Log files can also be uploaded and shared with stat tracking sites without disturbing client gamers. Game Menus and MOTD are not the same thing, I must commend you for a valiant attempt at mudding the waters. In-game music players really? There are so many other and better options that don't absorb bandwidth that the fact that you bring this up as an argument only presents evidence that you are intentionally attempting to ruin game experience or are just ignorant of how online games work.
I'm not the only one that finds this a detraction from my gaming experience otherwise this issue wouldn't keep be brought up in this list. It's like everything in real life, it's great until it gets abused then the powers that be need to step in and remove the source of the issue. <--I'm talking about the ability of server ops displaying MOTD's here. If you truly believe that the ability of server ops to display an MOTD or similar, adds value for players then you can code your own mod that has it and let the community vote by joining (or not) your modified server. PEACE AND LOVE From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 00:07:38 +0200 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 MOTD and Quickplay We never run ads on our servers and only use the MOTD for our quite popular ingame radio and gameME statistics. Not having the MOTD and with no way to gracefully handle the situation for the server *or* the client this restriction is just a nuisance. Valve has had a stance for the "don't like it, don't play there" policy on other topics, why does this get such a harsh treatment when even official partners like Pinion are suffering? Not even mentioning that this fix went to an extreme where even the opening MOTD, which is *required* to even join the game, can be inadvertently blocked for quickplay players. Just because *you* don't use MOTDs for anything useful doesn't qualify you to judge everyone elses use case. And no, a reasonable intro ad is not abusive. At all. On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Liquid Source <[email protected]> wrote: Just dump the motd altogether. A) Most of us are sick and tired of our gaming experience being hijacked by unscrupulous server ops. B) This topic is a virus to these mailing lists. C) The supporters of the MOTD Abuse and Game Hi-jacking are just trolling this list. D) MOTD has nothing to do with the actual game. E) Valve doesn't have the in house skill to actually resolve the MOTD abuse issue. F) Any messages the server op wants people to see can be sent via in-game chat. PEACE AND LOVE _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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