Some servers (Like mine) use the MOTD to display Server Rules rather than flooding said rules in chat every couple of minutes. Players see it upon entering and can check them out any time with !motd. Why should I have my players visit a webpage to check out the rules? Why should I have to have the rules spammed in chat every few minutes? That detracts from the game.
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Paul <[email protected]> wrote: > I just don't understand why this is such a big issue that a minority are > making it out to be. Simple answer is if you encounter such a server then > leave that server, blacklist it, report it and then move on. If such a > server exists then I'm sure it's a very minor amount out of all the QP/MM > servers out there. Don't go ruining it for others who use the MOTD for > genuine purposes as that just encourages people to eventually give up > playing the game and moving on to something else like Dota. > > > On 16 June 2013 23:37, Liquid Source <[email protected]> wrote: > >> You claim 'Harsh Treatment' in the defense of hi-jacking peoples game >> experience, REALLY? It's obviously an abuse hidden in background >> subterfuge. If you are collecting information about visitors then do it in >> the light of day, such as displaying in chat a survey page url or similar. >> Log files can also be uploaded and shared with stat tracking sites without >> disturbing client gamers. >> >> Game Menus and MOTD are not the same thing, I must commend you for a >> valiant attempt at mudding the waters. >> >> In-game music players really? There are so many other and better >> options that don't absorb bandwidth that the fact that you bring this up as >> an argument only presents evidence that you are intentionally attempting to >> ruin game experience or are just ignorant of how online games work. >> >> I'm not the only one that finds this a detraction from my gaming >> experience otherwise this issue wouldn't keep be brought up in this list. >> It's like everything in real life, it's great until it gets abused then the >> powers that be need to step in and remove the source of the issue. <--I'm >> talking about the ability of server ops displaying MOTD's here. >> >> If you truly believe that the ability of server ops to display an MOTD or >> similar, adds value for players then you can code your own mod that has it >> and let the community vote by joining (or not) your modified server. >> >> PEACE AND LOVE >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> From: [email protected] >> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 00:07:38 +0200 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 MOTD and Quickplay >> >> >> We never run ads on our servers and only use the MOTD for our quite >> popular ingame radio and gameME statistics. >> >> Not having the MOTD and with no way to gracefully handle the situation >> for the server *or* the client this restriction is just a nuisance. >> >> Valve has had a stance for the "don't like it, don't play there" policy >> on other topics, why does this get such a harsh treatment when even >> official partners like Pinion are suffering? >> >> Not even mentioning that this fix went to an extreme where even the >> opening MOTD, which is *required* to even join the game, can be >> inadvertently blocked for quickplay players. >> >> >> Just because *you* don't use MOTDs for anything useful doesn't qualify >> you to judge everyone elses use case. And no, a reasonable intro ad is not >> abusive. At all. >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Liquid Source < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Just dump the motd altogether. >> >> A) Most of us are sick and tired of our gaming experience being hijacked >> by unscrupulous server ops. >> B) This topic is a virus to these mailing lists. >> C) The supporters of the MOTD Abuse and Game Hi-jacking are just trolling >> this list. >> D) MOTD has nothing to do with the actual game. >> E) Valve doesn't have the in house skill to actually resolve the MOTD >> abuse issue. >> F) Any messages the server op wants people to see can be sent via in-game >> chat. >> >> >> PEACE AND LOVE >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your >> list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >
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