This constant state of strife is getting too common on this mailing list. Unfortunately, it seems like a few certain individuals are bent on forcing their viewpoint and attacking their opponents whenever the issue is even brushed upon. This debate is NOT an issue related to running servers and thus shouldn't even occur on this list - there is a specific forum on SPUF named "Server Feedback" in which this issue should ultimately be brought up by those interested in discussing it.
While the list in theory would be the right place to bring it up, the fact that Valve does not even respond when these contentious discussions occur here is a pretty good reason to file it on the Valve Source game issue tracker, where they'll at least barely acknowledge it by marking it as a feature request and hopefully where none of this pointless fighting will occur. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Valve Monkey <[email protected]>wrote: > Yea and stop spamming this list with garbage. Funny how the trolls on this > list attack people they disagree with. I wish someone would deal with these > list troll asshats. > > ------------------------------ > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 09:06:18 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) > > This is not the place for you to advertise. This list is for server > related issues and information, not advertising. I thank you in advance > for refraining from posting you server ip listings on this list. > > Thanks and have a wonderful day > > ------------------------------ > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 07:17:44 -0400 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) > > Are these your servers listed here? > > http://bloodyiron.ca/ > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Derek Howard > <[email protected]>wrote: > > As am I. It allows my users to easily access the public backpacks of other > users, check their SteamRep status, add other users as friends without > needed to exchange information, view various information about the server, > among a plethora of other things. It is an invaluable resource; printing > 100+ lines to the fucking CHAT BOX is completely absurd and unfeasible. Not > to mention that it is pretty much impossible to print anything other than > text to the box. > > All that being said, the IDEAL solution would be some sort of way for > servers to forward addresses to the overlay's browser, with the user's > consent. For example, I run the command *!bp 1337Trader* and a little > notification pops up in the lower right corner of the screen. I shift+tab, > and see a little box asking for my permission to open 1337Trader's backpack > page on backpack.tf. > > I don't see this happening any time soon, though. > > > > Derek D. Howard > [email protected] > (707) 726-2239 > http://gplus.to/derekh > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:05 PM, T Marler <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm actually rather fond of the motd feature > > Steam Commander <[email protected]> wrote: > > Agreed, The problem is this thread got derailed by one user with 4 > subscribed accounts. ([email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]). > > Additional information about why the MOTD should be abused by server > owners really doesn't justify it. Let's just agree that removing the MOTD > feature from servers would resolve all the issues and close this > discussion. Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 01:58:20 +0100 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) > > This is not what this mailing list is used for, please sort out your > personal issues elsewhere. > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:56 AM, Steam Commander <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > when you say "I'm out" does that mean all of you or just this account? > > From: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 01:52:30 +0100 > > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) > > *facepalm* I'm out. > > On 17 June 2013 01:50, Steam Commander <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > make that four accounts with the same origin ip [50.115.172.19], also > registered to doctormckay.com... > > [email protected] > [email protected] > > > > [email protected] > [email protected] > > email origin is not the same as the mailing list, thanks for expressing > your concern so as to make me look closer at your trail too. > > > > > > From: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 01:43:49 +0100 > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) > > Valve's mailing list IP? > > On 17 June 2013 01:41, Steam Commander <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > speaking of single user multiple accounts. it looks like > [email protected], [email protected], and [email protected] are > coming from the same origin ip address. funny how that works out. > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:28:22 -0400 > > > > > > > Subject: [hlds] (no subject) > > > > > make that five accounts > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:21:06 -0400 > Subject: [hlds] (no subject) Make that four accounts. > > > > > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 16 > Jun 2013 20:19:06 -0400 > Subject: [hlds] (no subject) > > > > > > Way to attack people contributing to the list!! > > > What makes you think they are the same person? because > they disagree with your wrong opinion? > > Which one of those people said anything about "quickplay" at all? do you > actually read what people write or do you just make things up in your head > and > respond in kind? > > A few loud mouths do not reflect the opinions of all. > > > ----- > Original Message ----- > > From: > Evourr [[email protected]] > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 8:05 PM > Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 MOTD and > Quickplay > > > > The problem is this thread got derailed by one user with > 3 subscribed accounts. (Liquid Source, Steam Commander, and Valve > Monkey.) > > Additional information added to the return of the > "status" command would suit your needs. > > The problem with your original statement is that you > wanted Valve to implement a restriction on the quickplay clients so the > motd was > completely disabled, but you only wanted it so you could detect quickplay > clients. 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