I'm not sure if you guys are aware but you're sending your personal emails
to the whole list. I don't know who you are.


On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Lep Racy <[email protected]> wrote:

> this has what to do with hl servers? please stop spamming the list with
> irrelevant topics.
>
> btw, it's easy to get email ip info from Google and Microsoft email
> accounts unless they are sent internally from MS or Google and you know
> how. which you obviously don't. anyone that listens to your lies are the
> stupid ones. but I doubt very many people are dumb enough to believe you.
>
> Valve really should kill this mailing list anyways most of you homos just
> meet in the gay bar after hours anyways you can share your homo talk with
> each other there.
>
> that is all, any further response on this matter will be categorized as
> spam and list trolling.
>
>
>
> > Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 19:53:08 -0600
> > From: [email protected]
>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)
> >
> > Notably, both Google and Microsoft do not give the end-user originating
> > IP of email from the web interface and this cannot be retrieved without
> > a subpoena. (Claims to the contrary may be backed up with hard evidence
> > or will be disregarded by intelligent people on this list.)
> >
> > Example of origin from Google using the web interface:
> >
> > Received: by 10.204.4.205 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 17:52:30 -0700
> (PDT)
> >
> > Just that. Google's internal server. After that, it will prepend MIME
> > info, an X-received, and a DKIM signature before handing it off to the
> > Google SMTP server. Further tracks will show arriving from Google's
> servers.
> >
> > Example of masked origin from Microsoft's system:
> >
> > Received: from BAY174-W22 ([65.54.190.60]) by
> bay0-omc1-s26.bay0.hotmail.com
> > with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675);
> >
> > The general edge it came from can be determined to a degree, but not the
> > end user origination information and the edge can be manipulated.
> >
> > So no, origin IP cannot be determined in those cases. Even if it could
> > it is trivial to use TOR or other similar systems to mask that.
> >
> > However, it's trivial to simply read the messages provided by anybody
> > involved and see the differences in tone and content and make educated
> > decisions based on that. It's not at all hard to trash anything coming
> > from addresses that show poor judgement in selection of verbiage.
> >
> > The list becomes a lot more manageable and pleasant in cases where any
> > message that is either from or responding to known-problems is dropped
> > in the bit bucket.
> >
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