Robert, i'm 100% on your side. My community is almost dead afters 6 months with this crappy update. Just a few hours in the evening with all the old hardocre regulars are left (on good days). Summer hits so much harder than ever before. It's so difficult to fill the server outside from 8-11pm. Even the 8000+ steamgroup member + events doesn't help much.

TF got old is a lame excuse, it's a lot of these changes Valve keeps making. I have had people in my clan quit playing because of all the changes.

Absolutely. Why is there such a sudden drop? Why are player counts decreasing at the start of summer vacation? Why this year, and not the year >before or next year? Why such a large drop in the absence of any major FPS releases? Anyone unbiased would easily see Valve's quickplay change is >to blame for this.


On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Albert Davis <[email protected]> wrote:
TF got old is a lame excuse, it's a lot of these changes Valve keeps making. I have had people in my clan quit playing because of all the changes.

On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Robert Paulson <[email protected]> wrote:
Repeating the same overused quip is not a valid excuse to ignore all the evidence. "TF2 just got old" is not a valid explanation. 1 out of every 5 >>>players just decides to stop playing when summer vacation starts? Please... get real.

This year
http://www.steamgraph.net/index.php?action=graph&jstime=1&appid=440&from=1388563200000&to=End+Time

Last Year
http://www.steamgraph.net/index.php?action=graph&jstime=1&appid=440&from=1357027200000&to=1370415600000




On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Phillip Vector <[email protected]> wrote:
And that thing is Valve removing community servers from quickplay.

Correlation does not imply causation.

Player counts being lower does not mean that it's because of the quickplay decision.

Yeah, I know I said it before. You stop repeating that unsupported assumption, I'll stop reminding you that you are committing a logical falicy.


On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Robert Paulson <[email protected]> wrote:
*Goes to search for Interstellar Marines* http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
Not even in the list with the last game having 1000 players.

Most people that prefer FPS can't stand MOBAs such as myself. People getting bored of a game means a slow decline, this decline looks fast >>>>>to me. There is absolutely no reason for player counts to drop after summer this year when it has increased every other year before this unless >>>>>something is really wrong. And that thing is Valve removing community servers from quickplay.


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