Community servers kept the game running totally fine for four years, when Valve put their own servers in, the player counts dropped. And that was even along the addition of F2P. Valve has told us here they will fix the attention problems, and have failed to do so. That's the problem.
Even Gave Newell http://www.pcgamer.com/gabe-newell-pc-gaming-communities-are-keeping-games-alive/ has said community servers are important. Tell me what is so wrong with asking them to actually sit down with us and talk stuff out. And before you say "Well you're all whiny and whatever" , consider a lot of people are upset because this has gone on so long now without any indication they actually care. On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:10 PM, Phillip Vector <[email protected]> wrote: > >I'd say the sharp drops in player count since valve servers took over > says a lot about the state of things > > Again.. Could it be possible that the majority of the players WANT to play > on vanilla servers? That community servers, while fills a niche, isn't what > the majority want? > > Please, be honest with yourself and at least admit to the possibility. > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:05 PM, Rowedahelicon < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I'd say the sharp drops in player count since valve servers took over >> says a lot about the state of things >> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Phillip Vector <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >Point there is we have been complaining about this for over a year, >>> they do something to fix it, you guys complain and it gets reversed in just >>> a few days. >>> >>> Has it possibly crossed your mind that the opinion you felt that it was >>> a good idea was in the minority? >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Rowedahelicon < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Point there is we have been complaining about this for over a year, >>>> they do something to fix it, you guys complain and it gets reversed in just >>>> a few days. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 10:43 PM, Phillip Vector < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >Why would anyone be appreciative when the only choices that have been >>>>> made were between bad for communities or bad for communities? >>>>> >>>>> Because you can catch more flies with honey then vinegar. >>>>> >>>>> >The last thing that might of qualified, removing official servers >>>>> from the browser, was reversed in a matter of days. >>>>> >>>>> Speaking as someone who emailed them to complain about them being >>>>> removed, I'm glad they are back. I like using the browser to find ALL >>>>> servers. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Robert Paulson <[email protected] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That's because Valve hasn't made a choice that benefited server >>>>>> owners over official ones. >>>>>> >>>>>> Why would anyone be appreciative when the only choices that have been >>>>>> made were between bad for communities or bad for communities? >>>>>> >>>>>> The last thing that might of qualified, removing official servers >>>>>> from the browser, was reversed in a matter of days. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Daniel Barreiro < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Why would they help people who always seem to be unappreciative >>>>>>> cunts no matter what choice is made? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 10:16 PM, HD <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well I was hoping to see something along the lines of "Changed lots >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> things to help out the community" but apparently that was all >>>>>>>> wishful >>>>>>>> thinking. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric >>>>>>>> Smith >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 10:09 PM >>>>>>>> To: [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> Subject: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The update notes are >>>>>>>> below. The >>>>>>>> new version is 3065162. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Eric >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Fixed corrupt textures that were appearing for some players >>>>>>>> - Fixed crashes that were occurring for some players with 3GB or >>>>>>>> less of RAM >>>>>>>> - Temporarily removed texture memory optimizations for players on >>>>>>>> Intel >>>>>>>> Integrated GPUs >>>>>>>> - Fixed a client crash related to the backpack >>>>>>>> - Fixed a bug where mini-crits were overriding full crits >>>>>>>> - Fixed "Sort by Date" sorting in the wrong order in the backpack >>>>>>>> (design is >>>>>>>> to sort with newest items in the front) >>>>>>>> - Fixed the Invasion Unusual effect "Subatomic" being off-center >>>>>>>> - Fixed not being able to put cosmetic items from the Gargoyle >>>>>>>> Collection >>>>>>>> onto the Steam Community Market >>>>>>>> - Fixed missing kill icons for the Invasion weapons >>>>>>>> - Fixed the "Win a Bumper Kart minigame" Merasmission objective not >>>>>>>> triggering in the event of a team wipe >>>>>>>> - Added a "Batman" tag for Workshop submissions for the Arkham >>>>>>>> Knight >>>>>>>> Contest >>>>>>>> - Fixed missing Quickplay images for Mannpower maps Gorge and >>>>>>>> Thunder >>>>>>>> Mountain >>>>>>>> - Updated PASS Time to fix not seeing the Halloween version of the >>>>>>>> Jack >>>>>>>> while it's being carried by a player >>>>>>>> - Updated The Infernal Impaler, Courtier's Collar, Iron Lung, and >>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>> Bearded Bombardier >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Matthew (Rowedahelicon) Robinson* >>>> Web Designer / Artist / Writer >>>> Website - http://www.rowedahelicon.com/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Matthew (Rowedahelicon) Robinson* >> Web Designer / Artist / Writer >> Website - http://www.rowedahelicon.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > -- *Matthew (Rowedahelicon) Robinson* Web Designer / Artist / Writer Website - http://www.rowedahelicon.com/
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