Valve very rarely engages in discussions here. Every so often they will give a single response to a pressing issue, usually if that issue is very technical and has had some kind of statistics thrown around alongside it. But never regarding the why and why not's of community related issues or choices they make with updates/changes. The TF2 devs, unlike CSGO, are very good about announcing updates here as well as delayed updates, though. It's probably safe to say that they at least read some of the more well thought out posts here, seems very unreasonable for them to not do so considering many of the regular contributors here are fairly well mannered and detail their posts factually. Sadly, the trolls and idiots who hurl insults are the loudest, and make these mailing lists seem like a cesspool of bullshit.
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Seth Morton <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't think they ever engage in discussion on the mailing list. I > haven't seen them do it. > > On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Alexander Managadze < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I recently subscribed to this and I must say I didn't expect this kind of >> behavior here. >> >> Anyways, I'd like to ask some questions if I may: >> >> - Do Valve employees ever respond to conversations here? >> - Do they actually read these conversations? >> >> I don't really want to start a discussion topic here if it's unclear >> whether or not it will actually reach Valve. If I wanted to share my >> thoughts and opinions without necessarily requiring Valve's attention, I >> can always post it on Reddit or even Steam forums. >> >> Thank you for you time. >> >> On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 5:21 PM, James Botting < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Would you people grow up and have some manners? This is a mailing list >>> for professional server operators. Act with some professionalism. >>> >>> This is no place for insults, or below the belt comments about peoples >>> personal lives. >>> >>> On 23 Oct 2016 14:19, "William Kane" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> im talking straight facts but good to know that you are one of them. >>>> >>>> checked your page to double confirm, yep, furry. >>>> >>>> i still remember when they disabled sprays on their public servers due >>>> to people abusing it. >>>> 80% of the time it was furry "porn". no wonder valve doesn't listen to >>>> people like you, indeed. >>>> >>>> >>>> 2016-10-23 7:54 GMT+02:00 Rowedahelicon <[email protected] >>>> om>: >>>> >>>>> Throwing insults serves no purpose and doesn't get anything done, it's >>>>> no wonder Valve doesn't listen >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 1:48 AM, William Kane <[email protected] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> typical retarded tf2 community, 95% of it is trash, doesn't matter if >>>>>> its server owners or the players itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2016-10-23 7:29 GMT+02:00 Lyrai <[email protected]>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm pretty sure 95% of this mailing list is nothing but complaining, >>>>>>> the other 5% being updates. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Calum <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> can you go argue or complain on reddit or something not on a >>>>>>>> mailing list. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>>>>> From: "Robert Paulson" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>> Sent: 23/10/2016 05:55:45 >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > I’m not sure if that was directed toward me or the other person >>>>>>>> but I’ve not said anything about disliking community servers if they >>>>>>>> were >>>>>>>> policed properly they’d be a great addition to Team Fortress 2. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It was addressed to the person who said that, so unless Phillip >>>>>>>> Vector is your alter ego no it is not directed to you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > The issue is Valve has no way to guarantee the experience of >>>>>>>> players as they’ve said in blog posts it’s what they are looking for >>>>>>>> it’s >>>>>>>> what they want. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This issue has been addressed repeatedly already. Simply only allow >>>>>>>> people on official servers for the first 10 or so hours of gameplay. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Then after that, switch the default to community servers. People >>>>>>>> will know what a "vanilla" experience is like and can choose to switch >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> default back if they so choose. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you are still paranoid about the experience, then you can start >>>>>>>> charging people a license or something in order to get listed in >>>>>>>> "casual" >>>>>>>> so if they abuse the system, so they can't just make a new account in 1 >>>>>>>> minute. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All of these issues are easily solved and just saying that Valve >>>>>>>> has no choice is encouraging them to be lazy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Tee hee hee hee >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *Matthew (Rowedahelicon) Robinson* >>>>> Web Designer / Artist / Writer >>>>> Website - http://www.rowedahelicon.com/ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >
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