We have come a long way from the times when tags event_247 and eventmix were a thing on community servers to receive traffic.

At those times, all servers were full of people, instantly replacing leaving players with new ones and everyone had fun. Now? You queue 2-10 mins to a server, alone or with friends and then there is a cheater on, and you cannot kick him because the votekick doesn't even work. This happened to me twice today.

A good example of the lack of players on community servers is - even if you held an event to test out custom maps or simply ingame default maps, people come and go, there isn't enough people to even test multiple maps properly, not to even mention having any custom maps on cycle for players to play.

A little carrot towards community servers would help a lot. Also, Like Rowedahelicon said, Brimstone is pl_fifthcurve_event as map name and in loading screen ingame. I dont know why it isn't called Brimstone in loading screen, while Viaduct_event is Eyeaduct in it and Lakeside_event is Ghost Fort.

PS:

Valve people do reply occasionally but mostly they dont. If they want to prepare us for something, they will post. Generally, no. But if you have legitimate issue, post it here and they might just pay attention to it.

Also

Philip has always been against community servers, so you are best of not paying attention to his posts.

-ics

Michael Loveless kirjoitti:
Valve very rarely engages in discussions here. Every so often they will give a single response to a pressing issue, usually if that issue is very technical and has had some kind of statistics thrown around alongside it. But never regarding the why and why not's of community related issues or choices they make with updates/changes. The TF2 devs, unlike CSGO, are very good about announcing updates here as well as delayed updates, though. It's probably safe to say that they at least read some of the more well thought out posts here, seems very unreasonable for them to not do so considering many of the regular contributors here are fairly well mannered and detail their posts factually. Sadly, the trolls and idiots who hurl insults are the loudest, and make these mailing lists seem like a cesspool of bullshit.



On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Seth Morton <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I don't think they ever engage in discussion on the mailing list.
    I haven't seen them do it.

    On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Alexander Managadze
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        I recently subscribed to this and I must say I didn't expect
        this kind of behavior here.

        Anyways, I'd like to ask some questions if I may:

          * Do Valve employees ever respond to conversations here?
          * Do they actually read these conversations?

        I don't really want to start a discussion topic here if it's
        unclear whether or not it will actually reach Valve. If I
        wanted to share my thoughts and opinions without necessarily
        requiring Valve's attention, I can always post it on Reddit or
        even Steam forums.

        Thank you for you time.

        On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 5:21 PM, James Botting
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Would you people grow up and have some manners? This is a
            mailing list for professional server operators. Act with
            some professionalism.

            This is no place for insults, or below the belt comments
            about peoples personal lives.


            On 23 Oct 2016 14:19, "William Kane"
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
            wrote:

                im talking straight facts but good to know that you
                are one of them.

                checked your page to double confirm, yep, furry.

                i still remember when they disabled sprays on their
                public servers due to people abusing it.
                80% of the time it was furry "porn". no wonder valve
                doesn't listen to people like you, indeed.


                2016-10-23 7:54 GMT+02:00 Rowedahelicon
                <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>>:

                    Throwing insults serves no purpose and doesn't get
                    anything done, it's no wonder Valve doesn't listen

                    On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 1:48 AM, William Kane
                    <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                        typical retarded tf2 community, 95% of it is
                        trash, doesn't matter if its server owners or
                        the players itself.


                        2016-10-23 7:29 GMT+02:00 Lyrai
                        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

                            I'm pretty sure 95% of this mailing list
                            is nothing but complaining, the other 5%
                            being updates.

                            On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Calum
                            <[email protected]
                            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                                can you go argue or complain on reddit
                                or something not on a mailing list.
                                ------ Original Message ------
                                From: "Robert Paulson"
                                <[email protected]
                                <mailto:[email protected]>>
                                To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server
                                mailing list"
                                <[email protected]
                                <mailto:[email protected]>>
                                Sent: 23/10/2016 05:55:45
                                Subject: Re: [hlds] Mandatory Team
                                Fortress 2 update released
                                > I’m not sure if that was directed
                                toward me or the other person but
                                I’ve not said anything about
                                disliking community servers if they
                                were policed properly they’d be a
                                great addition to Team Fortress 2.

                                It was addressed to the person who
                                said that, so unless Phillip Vector
                                is your alter ego no it is not
                                directed to you.

                                >The issue is Valve has no way to
                                guarantee the experience of players
                                as they’ve said in blog posts it’s
                                what they are looking for it’s what
                                they want.

                                This issue has been addressed
                                repeatedly already. Simply only allow
                                people on official servers for the
                                first 10 or so hours of gameplay.

                                Then after that, switch the default
                                to community servers. People will
                                know what a "vanilla" experience is
                                like and can choose to switch the
                                default back if they so choose.

                                If you are still paranoid about the
                                experience, then you can start
                                charging people a license or
                                something in order to get listed in
                                "casual" so if they abuse the system,
                                so they can't just make a new account
                                in 1 minute.

                                All of these issues are easily solved
                                and just saying that Valve has no
                                choice is encouraging them to be lazy.




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