Considering that I ran community servers before (and will again), I fail to see how I am against the community when I post things that don't follow the "Valve is wrong, we know best" narrative prevalent on this list. Perhaps I am supportive of the community, but I would like to work WITH Valve instead of keep repeating how they don't care.
Nah. I'm just a troll I guess. On Oct 23, 2016 09:18, "ics" <[email protected]> wrote: > We have come a long way from the times when tags event_247 and eventmix > were a thing on community servers to receive traffic. > > At those times, all servers were full of people, instantly replacing > leaving players with new ones and everyone had fun. Now? You queue 2-10 > mins to a server, alone or with friends and then there is a cheater on, and > you cannot kick him because the votekick doesn't even work. This happened > to me twice today. > > A good example of the lack of players on community servers is - even if > you held an event to test out custom maps or simply ingame default maps, > people come and go, there isn't enough people to even test multiple maps > properly, not to even mention having any custom maps on cycle for players > to play. > > A little carrot towards community servers would help a lot. Also, Like > Rowedahelicon said, Brimstone is pl_fifthcurve_event as map name and in > loading screen ingame. I dont know why it isn't called Brimstone in loading > screen, while Viaduct_event is Eyeaduct in it and Lakeside_event is Ghost > Fort. > > PS: > > Valve people do reply occasionally but mostly they dont. If they want to > prepare us for something, they will post. Generally, no. But if you have > legitimate issue, post it here and they might just pay attention to it. > > Also > > Philip has always been against community servers, so you are best of not > paying attention to his posts. > > -ics > > Michael Loveless kirjoitti: > >> Valve very rarely engages in discussions here. Every so often they will >> give a single response to a pressing issue, usually if that issue is very >> technical and has had some kind of statistics thrown around alongside it. >> But never regarding the why and why not's of community related issues or >> choices they make with updates/changes. The TF2 devs, unlike CSGO, are very >> good about announcing updates here as well as delayed updates, though. It's >> probably safe to say that they at least read some of the more well thought >> out posts here, seems very unreasonable for them to not do so considering >> many of the regular contributors here are fairly well mannered and detail >> their posts factually. Sadly, the trolls and idiots who hurl insults are >> the loudest, and make these mailing lists seem like a cesspool of bullshit. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Seth Morton <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> I don't think they ever engage in discussion on the mailing list. >> I haven't seen them do it. >> >> On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Alexander Managadze >> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> I recently subscribed to this and I must say I didn't expect >> this kind of behavior here. >> >> Anyways, I'd like to ask some questions if I may: >> >> * Do Valve employees ever respond to conversations here? >> * Do they actually read these conversations? >> >> I don't really want to start a discussion topic here if it's >> unclear whether or not it will actually reach Valve. If I >> wanted to share my thoughts and opinions without necessarily >> requiring Valve's attention, I can always post it on Reddit or >> even Steam forums. >> >> Thank you for you time. >> >> On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 5:21 PM, James Botting >> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Would you people grow up and have some manners? This is a >> mailing list for professional server operators. Act with >> some professionalism. >> >> This is no place for insults, or below the belt comments >> about peoples personal lives. >> >> >> On 23 Oct 2016 14:19, "William Kane" >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> im talking straight facts but good to know that you >> are one of them. >> >> checked your page to double confirm, yep, furry. >> >> i still remember when they disabled sprays on their >> public servers due to people abusing it. >> 80% of the time it was furry "porn". no wonder valve >> doesn't listen to people like you, indeed. >> >> >> 2016-10-23 7:54 GMT+02:00 Rowedahelicon >> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>: >> >> Throwing insults serves no purpose and doesn't get >> anything done, it's no wonder Valve doesn't listen >> >> On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 1:48 AM, William Kane >> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> typical retarded tf2 community, 95% of it is >> trash, doesn't matter if its server owners or >> the players itself. >> >> >> 2016-10-23 7:29 GMT+02:00 Lyrai >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>: >> >> I'm pretty sure 95% of this mailing list >> is nothing but complaining, the other 5% >> being updates. >> >> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Calum >> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> can you go argue or complain on reddit >> or something not on a mailing list. >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Robert Paulson" >> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server >> mailing list" >> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Sent: 23/10/2016 05:55:45 >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Mandatory Team >> Fortress 2 update released >> >>> > I’m not sure if that was directed >>> toward me or the other person but >>> I’ve not said anything about >>> disliking community servers if they >>> were policed properly they’d be a >>> great addition to Team Fortress 2. >>> >>> It was addressed to the person who >>> said that, so unless Phillip Vector >>> is your alter ego no it is not >>> directed to you. >>> >>> >The issue is Valve has no way to >>> guarantee the experience of players >>> as they’ve said in blog posts it’s >>> what they are looking for it’s what >>> they want. >>> >>> This issue has been addressed >>> repeatedly already. Simply only allow >>> people on official servers for the >>> first 10 or so hours of gameplay. >>> >>> Then after that, switch the default >>> to community servers. People will >>> know what a "vanilla" experience is >>> like and can choose to switch the >>> default back if they so choose. >>> >>> If you are still paranoid about the >>> experience, then you can start >>> charging people a license or >>> something in order to get listed in >>> "casual" so if they abuse the system, >>> so they can't just make a new account >>> in 1 minute. >>> >>> All of these issues are easily solved >>> and just saying that Valve has no >>> choice is encouraging them to be lazy. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ______________________________ >> _________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list >> preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com >> /cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> <https://list.valvesoftware.co >> m/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >> >> >> >> >> -- Tee hee hee hee >> >> ______________________________ >> _________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list >> preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com >> /cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> <https://list.valvesoftware.co >> m/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or >> view the list archives, please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com >> /cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> <https://list.valvesoftware.co >> m/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >> >> >> >> >> -- *Matthew (Rowedahelicon) >> Robinson* >> Web Designer / Artist / Writer >> Website - http://www.rowedahelicon.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or >> view the list archives, please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com >> /cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> <https://list.valvesoftware.co >> m/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view >> the list archives, please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com >> /cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> <https://list.valvesoftware.co >> m/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the >> list archives, please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> <https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> <https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> <https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >
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