I recently subscribed to this and I must say I didn't expect this kind of
behavior here.

Anyways, I'd like to ask some questions if I may:

   - Do Valve employees ever respond to conversations here?
   - Do they actually read these conversations?

I don't really want to start a discussion topic here if it's unclear
whether or not it will actually reach Valve. If I wanted to share my
thoughts and opinions without necessarily requiring Valve's attention, I
can always post it on Reddit or even Steam forums.

Thank you for you time.

On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 5:21 PM, James Botting <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Would you people grow up and have some manners? This is a mailing list for
> professional server operators. Act with some professionalism.
>
> This is no place for insults, or below the belt comments about peoples
> personal lives.
>
> On 23 Oct 2016 14:19, "William Kane" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> im talking straight facts but good to know that you are one of them.
>>
>> checked your page to double confirm, yep, furry.
>>
>> i still remember when they disabled sprays on their public servers due to
>> people abusing it.
>> 80% of the time it was furry "porn". no wonder valve doesn't listen to
>> people like you, indeed.
>>
>>
>> 2016-10-23 7:54 GMT+02:00 Rowedahelicon <[email protected]>
>> :
>>
>>> Throwing insults serves no purpose and doesn't get anything done, it's
>>> no wonder Valve doesn't listen
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 1:48 AM, William Kane <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> typical retarded tf2 community, 95% of it is trash, doesn't matter if
>>>> its server owners or the players itself.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2016-10-23 7:29 GMT+02:00 Lyrai <[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm pretty sure 95% of this mailing list is nothing but complaining,
>>>>> the other 5% being updates.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Calum <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> can you go argue or complain on reddit or something not on a mailing
>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>>> From: "Robert Paulson" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" <
>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: 23/10/2016 05:55:45
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > I’m not sure if that was directed toward me or the other person
>>>>>> but I’ve not said anything about disliking community servers if they were
>>>>>> policed properly they’d be a great addition to Team Fortress 2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was addressed to the person who said that, so unless Phillip
>>>>>> Vector is your alter ego no it is not directed to you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >  The issue is Valve has no way to guarantee the experience of
>>>>>> players as they’ve said in blog posts it’s what they are looking for it’s
>>>>>> what they want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This issue has been addressed repeatedly already. Simply only allow
>>>>>> people on official servers for the first 10 or so hours of gameplay.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then after that, switch the default to community servers. People will
>>>>>> know what a "vanilla" experience is like and can choose to switch the
>>>>>> default back if they so choose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are still paranoid about the experience, then you can start
>>>>>> charging people a license or something in order to get listed in "casual"
>>>>>> so if they abuse the system, so they can't just make a new account in 1
>>>>>> minute.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All of these issues are easily solved and just saying that Valve has
>>>>>> no choice is encouraging them to be lazy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> Tee hee hee hee
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