Florian, as always, these are good ideas.  Let's get a final concensus on
this before we create a standard and implement it.



HoundDawg

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Florian Zschocke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds_apps] Server-Side Bind Abuse


> HoundDawg wrote:
> >
> > Ok, here's another one that we should address.  Apparently, there is a
> > growing number of admins that are abusing the client execute features of
> > addons in order to rebind player key binds.  Should the addons refuse
client
> > exec commands that have "bind" in them or should HLDS handle this?  I
think
> > HLDS would be the best place for this.
>
> I disagree that it should be handled by HLDS. But I agree that
> this is an issue needing to be discussed. I have to correct Alfred
> in that Admin Mod currently does allow 'bind'. We do block 'alias'
> tho, for apparent reasons.
>
> As GeSpot said 'bind' can be used for valid reasons and to help
> clients so simply locking it down isn't the best option. I have
> been pondering over this for some time now and am thinking about
> something along the following lines.
>
> I would allow to bind the console command to a key to give admins
> the possibility to help clients enable the console as GeSpot
> explained. I would restrict all other bindings and only allow them
> on an opt-in basis. This means that the client can set a setinfo
> variable which the addon can read. Only if this variable is set,
> will other binds be sent to the client. This way an admin can
> enable the console for the client and tell him to set the variable
> in order for the client to allow the admin to set further
> bindings. This way you keep admins from binding user's keys
> without their consent but give them the possibility to help their
> clients who are less proficient with the HL console and bind
> system.
>
> Also does Admin Mod issue a message upon connect that the server
> is set to allow the execution of commands on clients. A much hated
> feature by some admins but I hope the clients appreciate it. :)
>
> Florian.
>
>
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