SH> You must not have been looking. Paladin Hacks where all over the SH> place after the first few weeks and it also banned a lot of SH> innocent people during the first period while is was still not SH> hacked becuse of bugs. To make matters even worse many people (me SH> included) had problems even connecting to servers with Paladin (I SH> had to retry up to 10 times before I got into even my own SH> servers). Paladin was never really hacked. There was a bug in it for some time that was exploited by some cheats but the last version was never hacked. One reason for this was that it wasn't that common in Germany, and the OGC programmer was busy hacking the new CD versions. :)
SH> C-D OTOH was very low maintainance, quite effective and quickly SH> updated and once the sound and ray-tracing issues had been fixed SH> it was the single most effective anti-cheat tool to date. Together SH> with CSG/HLG serverside and it's constant upgrading the SH> combination pretty much killed of cheating compleatly for a while SH> (then VAC came, and half a year later we are still not back at the SH> protection level we had with C-D alone, not to mention C-D + CSG). Cheating Death was hacked all the time, OGC even had an integrated client. The wallhack block did some mistakes even in the latest versions (one couldn't see players through the gap in the old version of de_train for example) and somehow the position of the players seemed inaccurate. You make me me cry a bit with that last sentence because CD with HLG not only killed cheating but good player's skill, too. This combination disturbed the gameplay that much, that good players had no fun playing. I and a lot of other players preferred to play without CD and HLG. I probably don't have to tell you that good players were called cheaters quite a lot for not wanting to play with CD and HLG... Please, anticheat developers, stick to one maxim at least : Prefer the risk of cheating over disturbed gameplay and test your new methods very well to see whether they affect the game in some unwanted ways! -- Best regards, Jan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
