Well actually, as server admins we are giving valve stuff for free too. Without us, there would be no CSS or HLDM servers and valve would have to run their own.
We provide a free service for them, the more SRCDS server there are the more likely people are to buy valves software and they intern provide a free service for us. It's a symbiotic relationship. And expecting a software development company to test their software before releasing it, isn't too much to ask I don't think :) Especially when you have an update platform like steam It'd be nice to get an explanation out of valve of what happened... not to point the finger at anyone, but just for them to be able to tell us how they are going to stop it happening again. My 2 cents Joel -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pedro Salicrup Sent: Thursday, 22 December 2005 8:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Crashes I am sick of everybody bitching about the problems that valve has with their update. SO WHAT? They provide the server software for FREE, the bandwidth for FREE! You cannot be asking for quality of service for software that is provided to you for free. If you know you might have problems with updates, dont autoupdate, have backups, etc. AND STOP BITCHING! I think Valve/Steam doe a GREAT JOB! On 12/21/05, InspectorG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ya know I havent said anything but ive been getting random start up crashes > on my steam client also. It works about 50% of the time fine but the other > 50% I get a Microsoft error on steams startup. Its been doing this since > the update prior to this one. > > Dont know if the servers problems are related to the client crash however. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joseph Laws" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 12:19 PM > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Crashes > > > > Yes, I guess the millions of dollars in revenue helps them cope... > > > > Eric (Deacon) wrote: > > > >> In a bold display of creativity, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >>> They still have not woken up and sniffed that cofee have they? > >> > >> > >> I'm just amazed at how well they deal with hostile little peckerwoods. > >> > >> -- > >> Eric (the Deacon remix) > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> > >> > >> . > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux

