After having read the interview, I have to say that although my wording would be different, I do agree with the majority of the things these gentlemen are saying. To put it short, delivering non-optional ads via CS servers, would be similar to Apache being distributed with non-optional ads on the websites you created and host through it, without any revenue to you: Completely ridiculous! I understand that Valve wants to explore ingame advertisement options. Personally I am not even against it.. A while ago I have even inquired about possibilities regarding this myself. My (or I guess in this case 'our') problem with this, is the way it is done.. If you ask me, there are better ways to do this, that are beneficial to all parties. For instance, what comes to mind would be a google adwords'ish OPTIONAL advertisement program, for which server owners/operators/GSP's/etc. could sign up and participate in. That way everybody wins; Valve by gaining revenue from the advertisers. The server owner by gaining revenues from Valve. The players, because there would be more funding with the server owners, to fund bigger and better servers for them to play on. And again Valve, because these players would have a good playing-experience and recommend their friends to buy the games. Of course there will be those who will completely reject the principle of ingame advertisements altogether, but that is a different discussion, that I do not intend to have. ;-) --- Regime http://www.livebythegun.com/
Marcel Beringer wrote: > This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, > while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. > -- > > Couldn't agree more with Saint K.! > > I host a couple of 1.6 servers for years now, pay for it myself, like the > hardware and the server hosting at a Dutch ISP. > > My money, my servers and my time are put into it. What the hell is Valve > thinking about making ads on _my_ server. Fuck off Valve, instead of > making up bullshit like this I'd rather have you fix the 64bit binaries > again. > > My 2 cents... > > Gr, > > Marcel > > > On Fri, 8 Dec 2006, Saint K. wrote: > > >> What do you think VALVe needs to pay to host the servers themself instead of >> us? >> And besides that, im not 100% against ads in a server, but dont bloody go >> treadning lawsuites when we want to put up some ads to cover the server >> costs, and later do it yourself, and running away with all the money. >> For us hosting the servers is a hobby. For some a business. But i dont feel >> that some one els should earn shitloads of money over my hard work to keep >> these things up and running, and keep them populair with new plugins and >> such. >> And before you go bitchin "they do all the coding", i've done a fair piece >> myself too to serve the CS community with tools, support 'n shit. >> >> For the one asking the link, sorry its on www.csnation.net >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 1:35 PM >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6 >> >> >> Go away, you don't need to run these servers. Running these server is for >> free, you do not pay licenses for it, do you!? >> >> In personal I would agree to attach advertisement in CS 1.6 - may Valve hire >> new anticheat coders... ;) >> >> >>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >>> Von: [email protected] >>> Gesendet: 08.12.06 13:28:40 >>> An: <[email protected]> >>> Betreff: [hlds_linux] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6 >>> >> >>> interview: advertisements coming to cs >>> >>> In-game advertisements are coming to Counter-Strike 1.6. Go ahead and let >>> that sink in a bit. CS-Nation has the exclusive first interview with >>> Valve's >>> Doug Lombardi about this upcoming addition into the Counter-Strike world. >>> CS-Nation: Many gamers who play CS 1.6 purchased the retail version. CS: >>> Source was sold as part of the Half-Life 2 package. How do you think >>> gamers >>> who purchase your products will react to in-game ads? >>> >>> Doug Lombardi: We believe that gamers are going to expect and accept >>> well-done advertising in games. We want to make sure that advertising does >>> not detract from the game experience, so it is our hope that first time >>> Counter-Strike purchasers will consider it simply as part of the game >>> world. >>> There are three information packed pages to this interview. Go ahead and >>> give it a gander and voice your opinions in the comment section. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Hey permanent screw heads. Your going to pay for my fucking server when >>> you >>> put up ads in it? Get bloody real! >>> >>> This SO pisses me off. We do all the fuckin work of hosting YOUR GAME on >>> OUR >>> SERVERS for fucking FREE and you are now going to use it as advertisement >>> base? >>> >>> What the bloody fucking hell is wrong with you people? >>> >>> Forgive me for all the swearing, but i basicly feel like i've been fucked >>> up >>> the ass with a giant baseball batt. >>> >>> We pay the cost for the server hardware, we pay the costs for the bandwith >>> and propper server locations, and your gettin all the money of it? >>> >>> If we put up some ads in our server to help fund it you go all wah wah >>> treadning with lawsuites 'n shit, and now your pulling the very same shit, >>> by putting the ads in, and taking money out of our own hands. Meaning we >>> have to pay even more cause we wont attrackt our own advertisers anymore >>> due >>> to this shit? >>> >>> What a bunch of crap shit this is. >>> >>> Saint K. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
