Hi, &my 2 cents... hands are itching ...
>>> If we put up some ads in our server to help fund it you go all wah wah >>> treadning with lawsuites 'n shit, and now your pulling the very same shit, >>> by putting the ads in, and taking money out of our own hands. Meaning we >>> have to pay even more cause we wont attrackt our own advertisers anymore due >>> to this shit? >>> >>> What a bunch of crap shit this is. rgd> Yeah sirtom. Thats a good point and i'm with you! ...not to mention cpu load after last updates, high tickrates forced by clients, not tested updates and lots and lots of bugs. How could 10 ppl server which uses 50-60% of 3GHz P4 cpu at peak and more than 50kbit/s per player be hosted by any company? 1000$ worth hardware + 100$-150$ worth bandwidth / month (not to mention admins hard work helping players with new updates and buggy engine) for 20 slots worth less than 100$ revenue a month ? Hosting game servers really isn't profitable. It maybe was 3-5 years ago. Some people pointed out that : a) ads should not be compulsory, b) hosting individuals and companies should get "a cut" (we pay for hardware and bandwidth after all & hlds and source servers are resources hogs) Saint made another good point: GSP's can't sell ads on their own servers (which in most cases have local coverage), so they can buy better hardware etc., even though players would then have a freedom of choice whether to play on server with ads or not. Or maybe Valve's going to host all of the world's servers by themselfs (s-thing like wow model), charge monthly fees and selling advertisements ? I really hope that Valve will start serious dialogue with us-GSPs and start threating us like a partners. After all we are natural allies and our goals are quite parallel. best regards Tomek ps. And one more thought: I can't imagine esport tournament sponsored by lets say Coke with Pepsi on players screens... ;) Or maybe it's the way to fully comercialize all of this... _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
