Yeah, 67 is the new 101. Pretty much pointless, though arguments could be
made against that if you watch net_graph. But even at 66, you'll see 66.x
coming through at times.
-Richard Eid
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Cc2iscooL <[email protected]> wrote:
> That's about what I have mine set to. I always set to 67 for maximums just
> to get that possible "extra" though. Might as well be over than under.
>
> I'd recommend rate 15000 for a 32 slot though, at least.
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Richard Eid <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > The problem, though, is that 100 doesn't exist in Source 2007 for
> > cl_cmdrate
> > and cl_updaterate, so those 100 settings are meaningless. And a minrate
> of
> > 100000 is a little rough. Unless everyone connecting to your server has
> at
> > least an 800Kbps or greater download speed from their ISP, they'll have
> > some
> > major problems playing on your server.
> >
> > You're right, though. The important settings in your config are the
> > minimums. They are far too high for a lot of people and the 66 cmdrate
> and
> > updaterate minimums that it is defaulting to are also a problem. Unless
> > people can hold 66fps on their client, they may begin to see some timeout
> > issues. I'd leave the min values for everything at the defaults. So my
> > config for you would look like:
> >
> > sv_minrate 10000
> > sv_maxrate 0
> > sv_maxupdaterate 66
> > sv_mincmdrate 30
> > sv_minupdaterate 20
> > sv_maxcmdrate 66
> >
> > Those settings are a lot more fair to the clients that will be connecting
> > to
> > your server(s) and will generally provide for a better overall
> experience.
> > I'm actually surprised you're not seeing a lot of timeout issues and
> other
> > connection related errors.
> >
> > -Richard Eid
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Danny Heinrichs <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Just wanted to chime in with my settings. Most admins don't like to
> give
> > > theirs out because it takes a lot of research (at least for me) to
> figure
> > > out how to achieve no choke and no loss with srcds TF2.
> > >
> > > As long as your box can handle the extra bandwidth (I know you said you
> > > have
> > > 100mbps, but there's always other issues such as packet loss), these
> work
> > > well for me:
> > >
> > > sv_minrate 100000
> > > sv_maxrate 0
> > > sv_maxupdaterate 100
> > > sv_mincmdrate 100
> > > sv_minupdaterate 100
> > > sv_maxcmdrate 100
> > > net_splitrate 300
> > > net_splitpacket_maxrate 60000
> > >
> > > The important settings here are no the max's, but the min's, and most
> > > importantly the minrate boost. The reason I have min rates that high is
> > > because some clients we're having lots of issues with everyone being
> > jumpy
> > > because the client cmd/update rates are 20/30 by default. Far too low
> for
> > > our 32 slot server. The split packet stuff doesn't have an effect on
> on
> > > the
> > > choke/loss that I have witnessed, but it is how we've been running so
> > just
> > > wanted to include it for the sake of completeness.
> > >
> > > Good luck with your server!
> > >
> > > Danny
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:10 PM, FPSB | Goerge
> > > <[email protected]>wrote:
> > >
> > > > alright, thanks for that!
> > > >
> > > > Still looking for kernel suggestions :)
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Cc2iscooL <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Change maxrate to
> > > > >
> > > > > sv_maxrate 0
> > > > >
> > > > > Make sure on your client you have...
> > > > >
> > > > > rate 50000 (this will probably reset every time you restart the
> game)
> > > > > cl_cmdrate 67
> > > > > cl_updaterate 67
> > > > >
> > > > > Your rate is probably dropping down to your server's minimum, which
> > is
> > > > > 9000.
> > > > > I don't know what kind of slots you have, but if you have a 32
> > slotter
> > > > 9000
> > > > > is nowhere near enough bandwidth @ 45-67 update rate.
> > > > >
> > > > > Try a sv_minrate of 15000-20000 for best effect on the server side.
> > > > You're
> > > > > limiting clients to a high update rate, limit them to a high rate
> as
> > > well
> > > > > to
> > > > > improve overall satisfaction!
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:51 AM, FPSB | Goerge <
> > > > [email protected]
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > My server always feels a little off when I run the default
> kernel.
> > > So
> > > > I
> > > > > > find some guides to compile it, but they all seemed geared to
> > making
> > > > > srcds
> > > > > > get thousands of FPS. When I run them, it does seem smoother for
> > the
> > > > > most
> > > > > > part, but it starts to hiccup. Sometimes it doesn't happen very
> > > often,
> > > > > > sometimes it happens so often, it's hard to play, and I rather
> use
> > > the
> > > > > > default kernel again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've set the sv_",,.rate" cvars to all the settings i could find,
> > > like
> > > > i
> > > > > > think i use currently, but they never seem to change anything.
> > > > > > sv_maxrate 35000
> > > > > > sv_mincmdrate 45
> > > > > > sv_minupdaterate 45
> > > > > > sv_minrate 9000
> > > > > > sv_maxcmdrate 67
> > > > > > sv_maxupdaterate 67
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm on centos 5.2 64 bit 2.6.18-128.1.6.el5 (default)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've tried 2.6.28 with RT patch/ no RT patch
> > > > > > max preempt
> > > > > > everything between 100 and 1000Hz
> > > > > > tickless enabled and disabled
> > > > > >
> > > > > > chrt on the srcds process
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I really don't care what the server FPS is, as long as it's
> smooth
> > in
> > > > > game.
> > > > > > Like I said, these 'high fps' kernel settings kinda help, but
> they
> > > have
> > > > > bad
> > > > > > stuttering.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Basic Server specs =
> > > > > > Intel Q9440
> > > > > > 4g ram
> > > > > > Linux Centos 5.2
> > > > > > 100 mb/s transer rate
> > > > > > Max Load EVER 50%
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am wondering if there are any suggestions to smooth out
> gameplay?
> > > I
> > > > go
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > other linux servers, and they use slightly weaker processors,
> like
> > > > q6600,
> > > > > > and it feels much a ton smoother than mine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Both linux kernel settings, and source engine settings (rates and
> > > junk)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm tired of guessing with these kernel settings, takes too long
> to
> > > > > change
> > > > > > setting, compile, reboot, test. :)
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