hehehe, anyone have some basic kernel config suggestions?
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Richard Eid <[email protected]> wrote: > Huh? Safe from what? 67 produces the same results as 66, so there's no > reason to use it. If people complain about you using 66 instead of 67, > rest > easy knowing that they don't have a clue. > > -Richard Eid > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Cc2iscooL <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Better safe than sorry, I guess! (One less thing for srs bzns players to > > whine about.) > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Richard Eid <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Yeah, 67 is the new 101. Pretty much pointless, though arguments could > > be > > > made against that if you watch net_graph. But even at 66, you'll see > > 66.x > > > coming through at times. > > > > > > -Richard Eid > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Cc2iscooL <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > That's about what I have mine set to. I always set to 67 for maximums > > > just > > > > to get that possible "extra" though. Might as well be over than > under. > > > > > > > > I'd recommend rate 15000 for a 32 slot though, at least. > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Richard Eid <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > The problem, though, is that 100 doesn't exist in Source 2007 for > > > > > cl_cmdrate > > > > > and cl_updaterate, so those 100 settings are meaningless. And a > > > minrate > > > > of > > > > > 100000 is a little rough. Unless everyone connecting to your > server > > > has > > > > at > > > > > least an 800Kbps or greater download speed from their ISP, they'll > > have > > > > > some > > > > > major problems playing on your server. > > > > > > > > > > You're right, though. The important settings in your config are > the > > > > > minimums. They are far too high for a lot of people and the 66 > > cmdrate > > > > and > > > > > updaterate minimums that it is defaulting to are also a problem. > > > Unless > > > > > people can hold 66fps on their client, they may begin to see some > > > timeout > > > > > issues. I'd leave the min values for everything at the defaults. > So > > > my > > > > > config for you would look like: > > > > > > > > > > sv_minrate 10000 > > > > > sv_maxrate 0 > > > > > sv_maxupdaterate 66 > > > > > sv_mincmdrate 30 > > > > > sv_minupdaterate 20 > > > > > sv_maxcmdrate 66 > > > > > > > > > > Those settings are a lot more fair to the clients that will be > > > connecting > > > > > to > > > > > your server(s) and will generally provide for a better overall > > > > experience. > > > > > I'm actually surprised you're not seeing a lot of timeout issues > and > > > > other > > > > > connection related errors. > > > > > > > > > > -Richard Eid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Danny Heinrichs <[email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Just wanted to chime in with my settings. Most admins don't like > to > > > > give > > > > > > theirs out because it takes a lot of research (at least for me) > to > > > > figure > > > > > > out how to achieve no choke and no loss with srcds TF2. > > > > > > > > > > > > As long as your box can handle the extra bandwidth (I know you > said > > > you > > > > > > have > > > > > > 100mbps, but there's always other issues such as packet loss), > > these > > > > work > > > > > > well for me: > > > > > > > > > > > > sv_minrate 100000 > > > > > > sv_maxrate 0 > > > > > > sv_maxupdaterate 100 > > > > > > sv_mincmdrate 100 > > > > > > sv_minupdaterate 100 > > > > > > sv_maxcmdrate 100 > > > > > > net_splitrate 300 > > > > > > net_splitpacket_maxrate 60000 > > > > > > > > > > > > The important settings here are no the max's, but the min's, and > > most > > > > > > importantly the minrate boost. The reason I have min rates that > > high > > > is > > > > > > because some clients we're having lots of issues with everyone > > being > > > > > jumpy > > > > > > because the client cmd/update rates are 20/30 by default. Far too > > low > > > > for > > > > > > our 32 slot server. The split packet stuff doesn't have an > effect > > on > > > > on > > > > > > the > > > > > > choke/loss that I have witnessed, but it is how we've been > running > > so > > > > > just > > > > > > wanted to include it for the sake of completeness. > > > > > > > > > > > > Good luck with your server! > > > > > > > > > > > > Danny > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:10 PM, FPSB | Goerge > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > alright, thanks for that! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Still looking for kernel suggestions :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Cc2iscooL < > [email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Change maxrate to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sv_maxrate 0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Make sure on your client you have... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rate 50000 (this will probably reset every time you restart > the > > > > game) > > > > > > > > cl_cmdrate 67 > > > > > > > > cl_updaterate 67 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your rate is probably dropping down to your server's minimum, > > > which > > > > > is > > > > > > > > 9000. > > > > > > > > I don't know what kind of slots you have, but if you have a > 32 > > > > > slotter > > > > > > > 9000 > > > > > > > > is nowhere near enough bandwidth @ 45-67 update rate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try a sv_minrate of 15000-20000 for best effect on the server > > > side. > > > > > > > You're > > > > > > > > limiting clients to a high update rate, limit them to a high > > rate > > > > as > > > > > > well > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > improve overall satisfaction! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:51 AM, FPSB | Goerge < > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My server always feels a little off when I run the default > > > > kernel. > > > > > > So > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > find some guides to compile it, but they all seemed geared > to > > > > > making > > > > > > > > srcds > > > > > > > > > get thousands of FPS. When I run them, it does seem > smoother > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > part, but it starts to hiccup. Sometimes it doesn't happen > > > very > > > > > > often, > > > > > > > > > sometimes it happens so often, it's hard to play, and I > > rather > > > > use > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > default kernel again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've set the sv_",,.rate" cvars to all the settings i could > > > find, > > > > > > like > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > think i use currently, but they never seem to change > > anything. > > > > > > > > > sv_maxrate 35000 > > > > > > > > > sv_mincmdrate 45 > > > > > > > > > sv_minupdaterate 45 > > > > > > > > > sv_minrate 9000 > > > > > > > > > sv_maxcmdrate 67 > > > > > > > > > sv_maxupdaterate 67 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm on centos 5.2 64 bit 2.6.18-128.1.6.el5 (default) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've tried 2.6.28 with RT patch/ no RT patch > > > > > > > > > max preempt > > > > > > > > > everything between 100 and 1000Hz > > > > > > > > > tickless enabled and disabled > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chrt on the srcds process > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really don't care what the server FPS is, as long as it's > > > > smooth > > > > > in > > > > > > > > game. > > > > > > > > > Like I said, these 'high fps' kernel settings kinda help, > but > > > > they > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > > stuttering. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basic Server specs = > > > > > > > > > Intel Q9440 > > > > > > > > > 4g ram > > > > > > > > > Linux Centos 5.2 > > > > > > > > > 100 mb/s transer rate > > > > > > > > > Max Load EVER 50% > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wondering if there are any suggestions to smooth out > > > > gameplay? > > > > > > I > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > other linux servers, and they use slightly weaker > processors, > > > > like > > > > > > > q6600, > > > > > > > > > and it feels much a ton smoother than mine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both linux kernel settings, and source engine settings > (rates > > > and > > > > > > junk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm tired of guessing with these kernel settings, takes too > > > long > > > > to > > > > > > > > change > > > > > > > > > setting, compile, reboot, test. :) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > list > > > > > > archives, > > > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Cc2iscooL > > > > > > > > Head Admin/Owner > > > > > > > > http://www.cc2iscool.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > archives, > > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Cc2iscooL > > > > Head Admin/Owner > > > > http://www.cc2iscool.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Cc2iscooL > > Head Admin/Owner > > http://www.cc2iscool.com > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
