Huh? Safe from what? 67 produces the same results as 66, so there's no
reason to use it. If people complain about you using 66 instead of 67, rest
easy knowing that they don't have a clue.
-Richard Eid
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Cc2iscooL <[email protected]> wrote:
> Better safe than sorry, I guess! (One less thing for srs bzns players to
> whine about.)
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Richard Eid <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, 67 is the new 101. Pretty much pointless, though arguments could
> be
> > made against that if you watch net_graph. But even at 66, you'll see
> 66.x
> > coming through at times.
> >
> > -Richard Eid
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Cc2iscooL <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > That's about what I have mine set to. I always set to 67 for maximums
> > just
> > > to get that possible "extra" though. Might as well be over than under.
> > >
> > > I'd recommend rate 15000 for a 32 slot though, at least.
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Richard Eid <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > The problem, though, is that 100 doesn't exist in Source 2007 for
> > > > cl_cmdrate
> > > > and cl_updaterate, so those 100 settings are meaningless. And a
> > minrate
> > > of
> > > > 100000 is a little rough. Unless everyone connecting to your server
> > has
> > > at
> > > > least an 800Kbps or greater download speed from their ISP, they'll
> have
> > > > some
> > > > major problems playing on your server.
> > > >
> > > > You're right, though. The important settings in your config are the
> > > > minimums. They are far too high for a lot of people and the 66
> cmdrate
> > > and
> > > > updaterate minimums that it is defaulting to are also a problem.
> > Unless
> > > > people can hold 66fps on their client, they may begin to see some
> > timeout
> > > > issues. I'd leave the min values for everything at the defaults. So
> > my
> > > > config for you would look like:
> > > >
> > > > sv_minrate 10000
> > > > sv_maxrate 0
> > > > sv_maxupdaterate 66
> > > > sv_mincmdrate 30
> > > > sv_minupdaterate 20
> > > > sv_maxcmdrate 66
> > > >
> > > > Those settings are a lot more fair to the clients that will be
> > connecting
> > > > to
> > > > your server(s) and will generally provide for a better overall
> > > experience.
> > > > I'm actually surprised you're not seeing a lot of timeout issues and
> > > other
> > > > connection related errors.
> > > >
> > > > -Richard Eid
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Danny Heinrichs <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Just wanted to chime in with my settings. Most admins don't like to
> > > give
> > > > > theirs out because it takes a lot of research (at least for me) to
> > > figure
> > > > > out how to achieve no choke and no loss with srcds TF2.
> > > > >
> > > > > As long as your box can handle the extra bandwidth (I know you said
> > you
> > > > > have
> > > > > 100mbps, but there's always other issues such as packet loss),
> these
> > > work
> > > > > well for me:
> > > > >
> > > > > sv_minrate 100000
> > > > > sv_maxrate 0
> > > > > sv_maxupdaterate 100
> > > > > sv_mincmdrate 100
> > > > > sv_minupdaterate 100
> > > > > sv_maxcmdrate 100
> > > > > net_splitrate 300
> > > > > net_splitpacket_maxrate 60000
> > > > >
> > > > > The important settings here are no the max's, but the min's, and
> most
> > > > > importantly the minrate boost. The reason I have min rates that
> high
> > is
> > > > > because some clients we're having lots of issues with everyone
> being
> > > > jumpy
> > > > > because the client cmd/update rates are 20/30 by default. Far too
> low
> > > for
> > > > > our 32 slot server. The split packet stuff doesn't have an effect
> on
> > > on
> > > > > the
> > > > > choke/loss that I have witnessed, but it is how we've been running
> so
> > > > just
> > > > > wanted to include it for the sake of completeness.
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck with your server!
> > > > >
> > > > > Danny
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:10 PM, FPSB | Goerge
> > > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > alright, thanks for that!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Still looking for kernel suggestions :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Cc2iscooL <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Change maxrate to
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > sv_maxrate 0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Make sure on your client you have...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > rate 50000 (this will probably reset every time you restart the
> > > game)
> > > > > > > cl_cmdrate 67
> > > > > > > cl_updaterate 67
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Your rate is probably dropping down to your server's minimum,
> > which
> > > > is
> > > > > > > 9000.
> > > > > > > I don't know what kind of slots you have, but if you have a 32
> > > > slotter
> > > > > > 9000
> > > > > > > is nowhere near enough bandwidth @ 45-67 update rate.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Try a sv_minrate of 15000-20000 for best effect on the server
> > side.
> > > > > > You're
> > > > > > > limiting clients to a high update rate, limit them to a high
> rate
> > > as
> > > > > well
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > improve overall satisfaction!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:51 AM, FPSB | Goerge <
> > > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My server always feels a little off when I run the default
> > > kernel.
> > > > > So
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > find some guides to compile it, but they all seemed geared to
> > > > making
> > > > > > > srcds
> > > > > > > > get thousands of FPS. When I run them, it does seem smoother
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > > > > most
> > > > > > > > part, but it starts to hiccup. Sometimes it doesn't happen
> > very
> > > > > often,
> > > > > > > > sometimes it happens so often, it's hard to play, and I
> rather
> > > use
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > default kernel again.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've set the sv_",,.rate" cvars to all the settings i could
> > find,
> > > > > like
> > > > > > i
> > > > > > > > think i use currently, but they never seem to change
> anything.
> > > > > > > > sv_maxrate 35000
> > > > > > > > sv_mincmdrate 45
> > > > > > > > sv_minupdaterate 45
> > > > > > > > sv_minrate 9000
> > > > > > > > sv_maxcmdrate 67
> > > > > > > > sv_maxupdaterate 67
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm on centos 5.2 64 bit 2.6.18-128.1.6.el5 (default)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've tried 2.6.28 with RT patch/ no RT patch
> > > > > > > > max preempt
> > > > > > > > everything between 100 and 1000Hz
> > > > > > > > tickless enabled and disabled
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > chrt on the srcds process
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I really don't care what the server FPS is, as long as it's
> > > smooth
> > > > in
> > > > > > > game.
> > > > > > > > Like I said, these 'high fps' kernel settings kinda help, but
> > > they
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > bad
> > > > > > > > stuttering.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Basic Server specs =
> > > > > > > > Intel Q9440
> > > > > > > > 4g ram
> > > > > > > > Linux Centos 5.2
> > > > > > > > 100 mb/s transer rate
> > > > > > > > Max Load EVER 50%
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am wondering if there are any suggestions to smooth out
> > > gameplay?
> > > > > I
> > > > > > go
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > other linux servers, and they use slightly weaker processors,
> > > like
> > > > > > q6600,
> > > > > > > > and it feels much a ton smoother than mine.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Both linux kernel settings, and source engine settings (rates
> > and
> > > > > junk)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm tired of guessing with these kernel settings, takes too
> > long
> > > to
> > > > > > > change
> > > > > > > > setting, compile, reboot, test. :)
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