yea...safe harbor applies if they also comply with any C&D order, etc.
And if they are in Antigua, it's a whole another ball-game...
either way, it's not related to this ML so...let's all not continue this
thing...please?
Pretty please?
Oh, think of the children!

G.

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Guy Watkins <[email protected]>wrote:

> I would think the "safe harbor" laws would apply to a service provider.
> Provided they are un-aware of any infringements.
>
> But I am not a lawyer, and think the world would be a better place with out
> them!
>
> } -----Original Message-----
> } From: [email protected] [mailto:hlds_linux-
> } [email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew Armstrong
> } Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 7:32 PM
> } To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
> } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] dproto
> }
> } But you're making yourself responsible by asking how to fix a problem
> } related to cracked servers and being aware of the situation.
> }
> } Just FYI, simply saying "I'm not responsible" (and even if the contract
> is
> } valid, and even if your customer agrees to it) you're the one someone
> will
> } come after if they cared enough, not your customer.
> }
> } The person suing you didn't sign any contract saying you could run a
> } cracked
> } version of their software and profit from it.
> }
> } - Andrew
> }
> } -----Original Message-----
> } From: [email protected]
> } [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of pet
> } Sent: Monday, 15 March 2010 5:28 AM
> } To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] dproto
> }
> } Game server is not a care and not a coke. Morover, for instance. Iam a
> } car renter, one of my customer rent a car. He install there cracked gps
> } map inside, do I also responsible for it, I do not thinks so :)
> }
> } W dniu 2010-03-14 19:20, Rusty Bower pisze:
> } > Lol. Just because I let someone borrow my car. I'm still responsible
> } > for it...
> } >
> } > Like the 40 pounds of coke in the back...
> } >
> } > Rusty
> } > Sent from my iPhone
> } >
> } > On Mar 14, 2010, at 14:10, pet<[email protected]>  wrote:
> } >
> } >
> } >> You probably didn't read what I have written before,  customers which
> } >> rents server from us is his owner for this time, and we are not
> } >> responsible for what is on this servers, which files he stores and
> } >> what
> } >> modifications are there. This all in our terms, before the customer
> } >> registrate on our web site, he have to approve it.
> } >> W dniu 2010-03-14 19:04, Saul Rennison pisze:
> } >>
> } >>> But they're your servers... so you are responsible for what's on
> } >>> them.
> } >>>
> } >>> Thanks,
> } >>> - Saul.
> } >>>
> } >>>
> } >>> On 14 March 2010 17:49, pet<[email protected]>   wrote:
> } >>>
> } >>>
> } >>>
> } >>>> We do not offer the non steam servers, check our offer in web site
> } >>>> please, my answer was only because the customers are wery
> } >>>> difficult this
> } >>>> time, and ask us about some modifications which we not allowed to
> } >>>> to. In
> } >>>> our regulations which are also on our web site is clearly written,
> } >>>> that
> } >>>> we are not responsible for what the customers doing with their
> } >>>> rented
> } >>>> servers.
> } >>>>
> } >>>> W dniu 2010-03-14 18:43, Steven Crothers pisze:
> } >>>>
> } >>>>
> } >>>>> What's worse is that maxrate.pl (the OP's domain) is actually a
> } >>>>> GSP,
> } >>>>> profiting off of these sales of illegal servers.
> } >>>>>
> } >>>>> Perhaps it's good that Valve's mail list was posted to, now they
> } >>>>> can
> } >>>>> blacklist his ip ranges.
> } >>>>>
> } >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> } >>>>> From: [email protected]
> } >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> } >>>>> Ross
> } >>>>>
> } >>>>>
> } >>>> Bemrose
> } >>>>
> } >>>>
> } >>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 1:25 PM
> } >>>>> To: [email protected]
> } >>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] dproto
> } >>>>>
> } >>>>> Counter-Strike + Counter-Strike: Condition Zero is $9.99 USD on
> } >>>>> Steam.
> } >>>>>
> } >>>>> It also has two other bundles:
> } >>>>> Counter-Strike 1 Anthology for $14.99.  Includes:  Counter-
> } >>>>> Strike, Day
> } >>>>> of Defeat, Deathmatch Classic, Ricochet, Counter-Strike:
> } >>>>> Condition Zero.
> } >>>>> Counter-Strike Complete for $29.99.  Includes: Counter-Strike,
> } >>>>> Day of
> } >>>>> Defeat, Deathmatch Classic, Ricochet, Counter-Strike: Condition
> } >>>>> Zero,
> } >>>>> Counter-Strike: Source.
> } >>>>> And of course, the Valve Complete Pack for $99.99.  I won't list
> } >>>>> that
> } >>>>>
> } >>>>>
> } >>>> here.
> } >>>>
> } >>>>
> } >>>>> On 3/14/2010 1:11 PM, Cc2iscooL wrote:
> } >>>>>
> } >>>>>
> } >>>>>
> } >>>>>> Doesn't 1.6 only cost like 5-10 $ nowadays?
> } >>>>>>
> } >>>>>> On Mar 14, 2010 12:10 PM, "Steven
> } Crothers"<[email protected]
> } >>>>>>
> } >>>>>>>
> } >>>>>> wrote:
> } >>>>>>
> } >>>>>> Good, perhaps that'll encourage your cheap-self to buy the game.
> } >>>>>>
> } >>>>>>
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