>because CSS is generally considered to be a more "skilled" and "competitive" 
>game than other Valve games

hehe yea that made me laugh
sadly though that many people actually do consider css skilled and
competitive :(

On 20 May 2010 19:50, Cc2iscooL <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't know about that, I think both games have some pretty dumb players.
>
> But besides that, I think it's just because CSS is generally considered to
> be a more "skilled" and "competitive" game than other Valve games, well,
> maybe except for CS1.6, and people have a desire to win at any cost. Problem
> is, you can't really tell anymore the people who are just insanely good and
> the people that use hacks due to the fact that hacks are fairly "random" now
> and are not always extremely obvious like the spinning headshot machine of
> ye olden times.
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:19 PM, DontWannaName! 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> If players dont notice then is it a problem... I generally think that the
>> CSS player base has a lower IQ than TF2s which probably contributes to the
>> hackers.
>>
>> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Cc2iscooL <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Unfortunately, VAC being the delayed banning system that it is, it is
>> > extremely rare that you will get any sort of ban in any decent amount of
>> > time if you don't have admins watching.
>> >
>> > VAC can take weeks, by that time they can do major damage to your
>> server's
>> > reputation unless you have 24/7 admin staffing.
>> >
>> > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Saint K. <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > On our filled 32 slot server I can express our bans in a hour rate,
>> that
>> > > bloody many.
>> > >
>> > > It almost would give me the impression that VAC doesn't appear to do
>> much
>> > > at the minute.
>> > >
>> > > Saint K.
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:
>> > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of ics
>> > > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:18 PM
>> > > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>> > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS beta - Massive amount of cheaters
>> > >
>> > > Do you even know Allen how VAC works? It's delayed banning system, not
>> > > instant.
>> > >
>> > > But there are always been cheaters in CS Source. Anyone who has ran a
>> > > fairly popular public server, has seen the days of daily cheaters.
>> > > However, lately there has been significantly less cheaters. I guess the
>> > > beta will change that if there really are lot of cheaters.
>> > >
>> > > -ics
>> > >
>> > > 20.5.2010 16:44, Allen Coppin kirjoitti:
>> > > > vac  is shit really. i went on a 40people cheat server. about 27 of
>> > them
>> > > > used cheats. not one got caught
>> > > >
>> > > > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Saint K.<[email protected]>
>> > >  wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >> Hi,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Before CSS beta I never really gave CSS much attention. During the
>> > beta
>> > > >> period we have a server running. One thing I notice is the massive
>> > > amount of
>> > > >> cheaters. And when I say massive, I mean massive.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> VAC is enabled, this doesn't scare them off. Is this a CSS beta
>> thing,
>> > > or
>> > > >> is it always like this?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Saint K.
>> > > >>
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