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That a bug that is really annoying... 

> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 23:43:10 +0200
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Half-Life 1 engine beta update released
> 
> From the little I heard about Counter-strike 2, it probably turns out very
> different. And due to the little press around it, it's probably in the "we
> test what sticks stage", which was the stage TF2 was under for almost seven
> years.
> 
> I expect a lot of CSS players moan about CS2 when it's out as it's "too
> diffrent". Kinda like with some TFC players when TF2 came out, but on a
> larger scale.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Evaldas <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > That's really funny... CS2? What should CS2 look like? OrangeBox? Nop, we
> > have CS:S
> > OrangeBox+1.6 gameplay? Nop, we have CS:Promod? A game on 14 year old
> > engine? HL1:CS2? Nop, thats hilarious...
> > I don't really understand what you kids want from CS2 actually?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 21:57:08 +0300, C Szabo <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> They could update VAC so it actually catches cheaters and then they would
> >> make money again! :)
> >> There is a lot of cheaters in 1.6. Or they should make CS2 so they can
> >> make money again on 1.6 players.
> >>
> >>  Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:07:32 -0400
> >>> From: [email protected]
> >>> To: [email protected].**com<[email protected]>
> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Half-Life 1 engine beta update released
> >>>
> >>> I'm not saying CS 1.6 is irrelevant; I shouldn't have compared it to
> >>> Quake 2 and that was my mistake.  Yes, CS 1.6 is hugely popular
> >>> worldwide, and yes, it's still a great game.  But Valve is in the
> >>> business of making money, and how much does Valve make off of CS 1.6
> >>> these days compared to its other products?  Probably not much.  I think
> >>> this game has become a monkey on Valve's back, so to speak.  It's still
> >>> very popular and it has a tremendous following, but the actual revenue
> >>> they bring in from it is small.  Most software companies don't support
> >>> their products nearly as long Valve has been supporting CS.
> >>>
> >>> That's why I'm saying that we're lucky they even work on it at all.
> >>> They could just as easily throw their hands up in the air and say
> >>> they're done working on it.  People would still buy new games, Valve
> >>> would continue to make money, and we would be stuck with bugs that will
> >>> never get fixed.  So, instead of insulting them for not doing this work
> >>> sooner, it seems like we should be thanking them for doing this work at
> >>> all.  We're not paying them to use the game once we've bought it, and
> >>> we're not paying them for the server stuff at all.
> >>>
> >>> On 07/26/2011 01:48 PM, ics wrote:
> >>> > One sentence. Mann Co Store ingame. More money than cs 1.6 buyers bring
> >>> in.
> >>> >
> >>> > -ics
> >>> >
> >>> > 26.7.2011 20:43, C Szabo kirjoitti:
> >>> >> TF2 is only bigger becuse its free. So they should stop support TF2
> >>> >> when they dont even make money on it? :P
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:24:49 +0300
> >>> >>> From: [email protected]
> >>> >>> To: 
> >>> >>> [email protected].**com<[email protected]>
> >>> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Half-Life 1 engine beta update released
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Ok, I understand you, but Counter-Strike was the most played game in
> >>> >>> The STEAM before TF2 F2P, and now it is in second place, so VALVe
> >>> >>> SHOULD release bugfixes and support this game, and I think this game
> >>> >>> is most popular First Person Shooter in The World, because there are
> >>> >>> a lot of non-steam players, thousands of them ...
> >>> >>> Quoting *David A. Parker<[email protected]> [1]*:
> >>> >>>> I don't want to get into a flame war here, but seriously, Counter
> >>> >>>> Strike
> >>> >>>> is how old now? I think we're lucky that Valve is still putting
> >>> >>>> effort
> >>> >>>> into it, and insulting Alfred for doing this work now instead of
> >>> >>>> two
> >>> >>>> years ago isn't productive. I'm sure everyone at Valve, including
> >>> >>>> Alfred, has better (and more profitable) things to work on in the
> >>> >>>> last
> >>> >>>> few years. Complaining to Valve about the lack of fixes in CS is
> >>> >>>> like
> >>> >>>> complaining to id Software about a bug in Quake 2. It doesn't even
> >>> >>>> make
> >>> >>>> sense.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> - Dave
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> On 07/26/2011 12:57 PM, Janis Petrovs wrote:
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > Did you read this bug with +voicerecord(voicecomm)? And what
> >>> >>>> about
> >>> >>>> > cs_siege bug with "concert hall" sound? After this map I
> >>> >>>> have to
> >>> >>>> > restart my CS to get back normal sound. Also "Internet List"
> >>> >>>> is full
> >>> >>>> > with Fake Servers, please ban these servers or block.
> >>> >>>> Counter-strike
> >>> >>>> > is going down because VALVe don't fix bugs, Ok now Alfred is
> >>> >>>> doing
> >>> >>>> > something after two years of doing nothing... I think VALVe
> >>> >>>> need to
> >>> >>>> > shame ...
> >>> >>>> > Quoting *Janis Petrovs<[email protected]> [1]*:
> >>> >>>> >> Good update, now setmaster work correct, but now there is
> >>> >>>> problem
> >>> >>>> >> with voicecomm, when player join server, it works but
> >>> >>>> after some
> >>> >>>> >> time it doesn't, so players can't use voicecomm, please
> >>> >>>> fix this as
> >>> >>>> >> fast as you can, players are asking me why they can't
> >>> >>>> speak.
> >>> >>>> >>
> >>> >>>> >> Quoting *Alfred 
> >>> >>>> >> Reynolds<Alfred@valvesoftware.**com<[email protected]>
> >>> >
> >>> >>>> [2]*:
> >>> >>>> >>> We have released an update to the beta, run the
> >>> >>>> hldsupdatetool with
> >>> >>>> >>> "-beta hlbeta" to get this update. Changes for this
> >>> >>>> update are:
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>> - fixed failing to load steam interfaces on windows
> >>> >>>> (updated
> >>> >>>> >>> steamclient binaries) (win32)
> >>> >>>> >>> - statically linked libsteam.so to libstdc++ so you
> >>> >>>> don't need to
> >>> >>>> >>> update it (linux)
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>> Let us see if this one sticks.
> >>> >>>> >>>
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> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > Links:
> >>> >>>> > ------
> >>> >>>> > [1] mailto:[email protected]
> >>> >>>> > [2] mailto:Alfred@valvesoftware.**com <[email protected]>
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> >>> >>>> Systems Administrator
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