Most of those cheaters have only 1 game anyway on those accounts, or its a hijacked one. And if a account is hijacked, it would be bad if all games got vac banned or w/e your gist is there.
VAC bans are since L4D per game if I remember correctly. Before that, it was per engine (HL, source, etc). As for the VAC only being done 2-3 weeks after the offense... I understand valve wants to "bait" the new cheats. But old cheats, that are widely used? should be in a day or so. Reporting on the profile, afaik it IS been looked at. That the kind of report cannot be used due their regulations is something else. I reported once someone with offending (inserted porn) pictures in their steam screenshots etc, was next day that the profile got cleared and the user could not change his profile for a x period. On VAC false positives, I've seen a couple complaints around, and I think one of those was genuine, but as I dont have that data, I cant tell. Its quite strange to see so little complaints about the vac ban system once it has hit. Other game studio's make it a horror, by first not doing anything, then all of the sudden ban a big part of their player base, without even saying that certain stuff was not allowed. See the MW2 config stories etc. I do think valve should improve VAC maybe taking a look at all those anti-cheat plugins out there, and look for ways to put the usable parts of them into VAC. Improving it to such a level that those claims of the makers of their cheat being "VAC Proof" at least cant be true. Its very annoying to see hackers you banned months ago for wallhacking or aimbotting etc still not being VAC'd. Accumulating more and more bans around on servers. Or to see the same hacker back on a different account. I know one case on a community, where a hacker has gone thru near a hundred accounts on their servers. They IP banned 'm, he then uses a different proxy, etc. Afaik, he buys cheap accounts to do this. They cough him once on their server with 5 different accounts, in couple of hours he got banned, next account, got banned, next account, etc. Some accounts where very old, some quite new, but never made in the last couple months or so. >________________________________ > From: Frank <[email protected]> >To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' ><[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, 24 December 2011, 17:07 >Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Cheat Engine & Report > >I 100% disagree... Don't cheat and don't get banned. You saying this just >says "Ohh well let's just slap em on the wrist for cheating - maybe they >will learn" >Nope sorry ...do not pass go - you cheat EVERYTHING you purchased with that >hard earned cash is gone and you shouldn't get it back. Now you can come >back later and make a new account, repurchase the games and maybe then that >will make you think twice about violating TOS. > >Says it clear as day on the VAC Wiki.... > >Valve has "a zero-tolerance policy for cheating and will not lift VAC bans >under any circumstances > >So..don't cheat don't lose your hard earned cashed paid games. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steven Linn >Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 10:11 AM >To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Cheat Engine & Report > >I don't think it's fair for Valve to ban people from all Valve games >forever, because not only does it nullify all the hard earned cash they used >to buy the games, but it makes Valve look like a bunch of whiney little >girls. > >Don't get me wrong, I am not VAC'd and I have never been VAC'd. > >I just think a 3month ban would suffice, with repeat offense being the only >thing that gets you banned permanently. > >On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 8:52 AM, bp <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 13:53, dan <[email protected]> wrote: >> > But, look on the bright side, if a cheater is so obvious 20 of you >> > could tell, it shouldn't really be a problem. Just ban them from your >server. >> >> You'll understand, though, if that's not enough to ban an account from >> all servers for all Valve games forever (and then some) with no real >> chance of appeal. >> >> Think Reddit. > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
